What Does Colour Feel Like? Reading Colour With Your Psychic Senses

What Does Colour Feel Like? with Trance Medium, Donna King.

Listen to the full episode above, then read on for what I found when I went digging into colour afterwards.

I had a fridge declutter the other week. The door had got so weighed down with bits of paper it was starting to look like that bridge in Paris with all the love locks on it. In among my "sit in the power every day" reminders and my cheque to the universe, I found a page of notes from a colour workshop I took at the very start of my mediumship journey.

Red means this. Yellow means that. Green means the other.

I read it back and thought: what a load of old tosh.

Not because the teacher was wrong. They were a well-respected medium who was passionate about colour. It was because in that whole hour, scribbling away like a good student, I never once felt anything. I was learning colour with my head. And colour, I've since realised, is one of the simplest ways there is to get out of your head.

That's what Donna King and I got into in part three of The Mediumship Sessions, and you can listen to the whole conversation above. I didn't want to just repeat it here. So I went away and looked at what colour actually is, what the research says it does to us, and how you can use it to start waking up your own psychic senses.

Because I think you can teach colour in one question. How does it make you feel?

Colour really is vibration, and it also happens inside you

When Donna says every colour holds its own vibration, that isn't only spiritual language. It's physics. Visible light is a wave, and the only thing separating red from violet is how fast that wave vibrates. Red sits at the slow end, at roughly 430 trillion cycles a second. Violet is nearly double that. Every colour you have ever seen lives in a narrow band of light between about 380 and 750 nanometres.

Here's the part I love, though. Colour isn't only "out there". Your eye has three types of colour receptor, and your brain builds every shade you see from how strongly each one is firing. Which means some colours don't exist in light at all.

Magenta is one of them. There is no magenta in a rainbow and no single wavelength that makes it. When your eye picks up red and violet together, the two opposite ends of the spectrum, your brain invents a colour to join them up. Brown is the same. It has no wavelength of its own.

Now, in the episode Donna tuned into me and felt magenta. I pulled a card for her and landed on a deep brown-gold. It was only afterwards, reading up for this post, that I realised we'd each been given a colour that light alone can't supply. A colour the mind has to make.

I'm not going to hang a grand theory on that. But I think it tells you something true about colour. It is frequency and it is perception. Something real arrives, and something in you turns it into an experience. If that isn't a decent description of psychic awareness, I don't know what is.

Do colours have fixed meanings? What the research actually says

I wanted to know whether my fridge notes had any science behind them. The honest answer is yes, a bit, and then it runs out exactly where things get interesting.

In 2020 a team led by Domicele Jonauskaite at the University of Lausanne asked 4,598 people in 30 countries which emotions they attach to which colours. The overlap was striking. Black went with sadness and fear. Red went with love and anger, both at once. Yellow with joy. Grey with sadness and disappointment.

So something is shared. In the episode I called it the morphic field of a colour. Enough of us have linked red with danger for long enough that it carries. A marketing department certainly knows it, which is why I agonised over a red logo for my recruitment business years ago, chose it, and never changed it.

Look closer, though, and the shared meanings start to fray.

• In China, white carries sadness as well as relief, because white is worn to funerals. In Greece, purple does.

• Yellow feels more joyful to people in colder, rainier countries. As someone based in Bristol, I can only say: of course it does.

• The Manchester Colour Wheel study found that different shades of the same colour carried completely different feelings. Which vindicates me. My partner at the time, who worked in marketing, once looked at three logo reds I couldn't choose between and told me they were all exactly the same. They were not.

Then there's the finding that matters most for psychic work. Two Berkeley researchers, Stephen Palmer and Karen Schloss, showed that we like the colours of things we have loved and dislike the colours of things we haven't. Later work from the same lab found those preferences move as our experiences do. Your feelings about a colour are built out of your life.

That is exactly why Donna can sit with black and feel expansion, oneness, everything, while the 30-country average says sadness. It's why I can look at a black card and feel an ending, then look again and feel a rebirth. Neither of us is wrong.

A colour dictionary gives you the average. A reading is never about the average. It's about this person, today.

Where the colour charts came from, and what mediums did instead

So where did my fridge notes come from? They have a family tree, and it's a fascinating one.

In the 1860s a London medium called Georgiana Houghton was producing spirit drawings using an elaborate colour system of her own, each colour tied to a mood or a meaning. She exhibited 155 of them in London in 1871.

Then in 1901 two Theosophists, Annie Besant and Charles Leadbeater, published a book called Thought-Forms. At the front was a key to the meanings of 25 colours, running from light blue for high spirituality down to black for malice. Almost every "red means this" chart handed out in a workshop since is a descendant of that page. Mine included.

Spiritualism took colour somewhere more interesting. Harold Sharp spent over a quarter of a century at what is now the Spiritualist Association of Great Britain, and he pioneered the auragraph: a picture of a person's aura in colour and pattern, showing their past, present and potential. He worked at high speed, and the colours usually went down first. The drawing came after.

Gordon Higginson, Principal of the Arthur Findlay College from 1979 to 1993, taught spiritual assessment through colour and is said to have told his students that every medium should learn it. The idea is that colour lets you see the spiritual quality of a person, and the potential their soul is here to express. The College still teaches work with colour and auragraphs today.

Notice the difference between the chart and the practice. The chart says: look it up. Sharp put the colour down first and let the meaning follow. That's the part of the tradition I want to stand in.

How to read a colour, and why it takes the pressure off

So what does it actually mean to "read" a colour?

Donna put it simply. It's the same as using a tarot card. The colour isn't the message. It's a doorway into what you are already feeling about the person in front of you.

Here's what that looked like when we tried it live. I held up a dark red-orange card and asked Donna what it felt like. She felt an expansion in her heart: growth, movement, feet firmly on the floor. I looked at the same card and got elegance, calm, richness. Then, the longer I looked, a gold appeared in it that I hadn't seen at first, and with it a whole new layer about the depth of what she's done with her life.

Same card. Two readings. And the card kept changing as I sat with it.

A few things I've learned about working this way.

The colour is a deflection. When you're starting out, the biggest block is pressure. "I must get this right." The moment you think that, you're in your head and out of your feeling. Give yourself something to read into, a card, a colour, a flower, and the pressure moves off you and onto the object. I once saw someone give a full twenty-minute reading from a single rose.

Anything can be the doorway. To prove the point, I pulled a playing card for Donna mid-episode. Ten of clubs. I had never read a playing card in my life, and out came strong foundations, a house in order, and a forest so overgrown it was time to act. Donna knows a psychic in Brighton who reads from nothing else.

Meanings can get in the way. When I first learned tarot I'd sit with a book of card meanings, flicking between the Two of Swords and the Hierophant, getting nowhere. I'd been reading people my whole life and suddenly couldn't, because I'd swapped feeling for looking things up. Donna has played with tarot cards since she was five or six and never learned the textbook meanings. What she finds is that what you feel tends to line up with the card anyway.

A first feeling is not the same as a first thought. Ask me what colour you're thinking of and every part of me wants to blurt out the first one that arrives. Sometimes that's just a quick mind dishing something up. You learn the difference by doing it, a lot, and by being honest about which was which.

That last one matters. I test myself with colour cards regularly. My mum holds one where I can't see it and I feel for the shade. After a week away working in the power, I've named five in a row. A few days back in ordinary life, supermarket and all, I can't get near that.

Your sensitivity moves with your state. That isn't failure. It's information.

Colour, grief and the people we miss

I said in the episode that the black card felt sad to me. Death. An ending. And then, almost in the same breath, that the end of something is always the start of something else.

Colour and grief have always travelled together. The Victorians built a whole language out of it. A widow wore plain black for a year or more, and was then allowed to let colour back in by degrees: grey, then lilac, purple and mauve. They called it half-mourning.

It was rigid, and often more about what the neighbours thought than about the person grieving. But there's something true underneath it. Grief isn't one colour. It changes. And colour coming back doesn't mean the love has gone anywhere.

If you are grieving, try this. Bring to mind the person you're missing and ask what colour they are. Don't think about it. Just notice what arrives. It might be the blue of a cardigan, the green of a shed door, the particular orange of a kitchen forty years ago.

I'd be surprised if nothing came. I wrote recently about going through my dad's things and how much memory a single object can hold. Colour holds it too.

This is also where mediumship comes in. Donna said something in passing that I've been turning over ever since. She has never used colour as a way into a mediumship reading, but sitting there she could feel that it might work.

I think she's right, and here's why. Every mediumship reading begins in the psychic. Your own awareness expands first, and the blending with the spirit world happens from there. If colour reliably moves you out of your head and into feeling, it is preparing exactly the ground a medium needs. So I don't see working psychically with colour as a detour from mediumship. It's the foundation. You learn the language of your own awareness first, so that when someone in the spirit world does step forward, you can tell what is yours and what is theirs.

And if you're here because you'd simply love to hear from someone you miss, rather than develop anything yourself, that is what a mediumship reading is for.

Five ways to start working with colour this week

You don't need a class, a gift or a qualification for any of this. You need some colours and a bit of honesty.

1. Get some colours in your hands. A colour deck is lovely and a colour wheel works. A handful of paint sample cards from a DIY shop will do the job too. You don't need a deck as ridiculous as mine.

2. Sit with one colour. Pick one and give it a couple of minutes. Notice it. Feel it. Then watch what it brings up: a mood, a memory, a person, a part of your life. Don't interpret yet. Just collect.

3. Build your own palette. Do that with a different colour each day and write down what came. After a few weeks you'll have something no book can give you, which is your own colour language. I call it your palette because it's about you tuning into your power, not borrowing mine.

4. Try the envelope experiment. Put twenty or so colour cards into plain envelopes, shuffle them, and feel for the colour before you open each one. Treat it as an experiment, never an exam. Note the state you were in as well as how you did.

5. Read a colour for someone. Ask a friend to choose a card, then say what you feel about them through it. Start with "this makes me feel" and keep going.

Whatever you do, write it down. My journal comes everywhere with me. Some weeks it's a workbook, other weeks it's a mirror. And I've noticed that when life goes wonky, I stop writing in it, which tells me something in itself.

Write down how each colour feels now and watch how that changes. Think about what you wore at nineteen compared with what you reach for today. Donna told me she wore bright colours as a child, stopped through the years she was trying to fit in, and wears them again now. Colours evolve in us because we evolve.

One last thing. Be gentle with the committee in your head. If you're doing a long commute, a demanding job and a family, then opening up your sensitivity on top of all that takes time, and it may stir things up as it goes. Ask yourself whether your inner committee is on your side, or whether it's a panel of food critics.

This is a journey of healing as much as development. It always comes back to the same place: trusting what you feel.

Spiritual Takeaways

1. Colour is frequency and perception. Something real arrives, and something in you turns it into an experience.
2. Shared colour meanings exist, but a reading is never about the average. It is about this person, today.
3. Don't memorise what a colour means. Ask how it makes you feel.
4. A colour, a card or a flower takes the pressure off. It gives you something to read into.
5. Your sensitivity moves with your state. An off day isn't failure, it's information.
6. Grief isn't one colour, and colour coming back doesn't mean the love has gone.
7. Write it down. Your palette changes because you do.

Explore this with Donna and me

Reading about colour is one thing. Sitting with a group of people and discovering that the same card speaks to each of you differently is another. That's why Donna and I are opening two live online classes this autumn.

Psychic Development: The Power of You starts Sunday 25 October 2026, and runs Sundays 6–8pm UK time on Zoom. If you're new to all of this, start here. It's about getting to know your own energy and the way information comes to you, and yes, we'll be working with colour.

Mediumship Development: Moving in the Intelligence of Spirit starts Monday 26 October 2026, and runs Mondays 7–9pm UK time on Zoom. The evening slot is there to make it workable for our friends in the USA.

You can book a single class or a pass, there's no experience needed, and getting things wrong is positively encouraged.

About Donna King

Donna King is a trance medium and teacher, and my co-host for The Mediumship Sessions. She has been living with her sensitivity since childhood, and she teaches the way she works: by feeling first.

Listen to the full conversation

This post takes one thread from the episode and runs with it. The full conversation goes much further, into living as a sensitive person, why dating apps are the Wild West, and a shamanic sound healing session that had my walls vibrating. Listen above, on the Soul Sync podcast page, or search "Soul Sync with Jason Paul" wherever you get your podcasts.

New to the series? Start with Part 1 on spirit guides and sitting in circle and Part 2 on trusting what you feel.

And if something in this has stirred a question about your own life, or about someone you're missing, you're very welcome to book a reading with me, online from wherever you are.

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What Does Colour Feel Like? Exploring Your Psychic Senses. The Mediumship Sessions, Part 3, with Jason Paul and Donna King. Pick a chapter to read that part of the conversation. Lightly edited for readability.

03:27Welcome, village halls and two new classes

Jason: Here we are, the Mediumship Sessions, episode 3. How exciting! Donna King, welcome. Hello, hello, hello. Honestly, what a week it has been. We've both been busy bees. By the time you're listening to this, this will be in two weeks' time, so, hello to the future version of me, then, when I come to produce this. Hello, hello. So, I've had a busy week since I've stepped into my mediumship two weeks ago, and the recent addition of my full-time events manager, aka my mum, Kimball, as she's affectionately known. You know, it's been very busy.

She's booked me two lovely village halls, and she did say to me, Jason, do you not think, you should be doing theatres and things? I said, you know it's like a band, I want to do, go in the village hall first. And she said to me today, it's so funny, I said, how do you get on with the leaflets? And she said, great in some regards, and I said, where did you put them? And she said, well, in a pile in a coffee shop where the people get the sugars. And I said, you mean where the bin is?

Fantastic. You've put my leaflets, mum, on top of a bin. Fantastic. So, but anyway, all fun and games. But we've both been busy, because one of the things that I want to talk about to begin with is the development of our new online mediumship and psychic classes. Now, I'm so excited about this, and I will let you actually talk at some point, Donna, because it feels like everything in my life has been leading to this moment, which in itself sounds obvious, because of course everything has been leading to this moment, but the synchronicity in me now helping to empower people to explore the power of themselves, really is not very far removed from the power I was instilling with them as lawyers moving to other law firms.

So it feels very natural, but I'm so excited to be starting these classes. So they're starting, On Sunday the 25th of October is the Psychic Development class, The Power of You, 6-8pm UK time. You can find out all about this in the show description, and also the mediumship class starts Monday the 26th. In the evenings, to make it nice and accessible for our lovely friends in the USA. So, Donna King, today we are talking about an interesting topic, aren't we?

Donna: We are, we are.

05:55What is a psychic? Intuition, empathy and that word

Jason: We are talking about psychic. We're talking about all things psychic, but in particular, colour. Now, to start with you might be listening to this episode wondering, what the hell is a psychic?

Donna: What is a psychic? It is the natural intuition of the divinity of the soul, really. Everybody is psychic, as I said in our previous podcast you know, your own divine natural intuition, just depends on how much you work with it, to how strong that develops, and what abilities lay around it, like, prophecy, seership. But everybody's psychic, everybody has, like, there's that navigation of the soul.

Jason: Because I, for years and years. So, yes, in the last episode, we did cover what a psychic was but if you're picking us up here, essentially, everyone is a psychic to some degree or another, because it's all about the impressions that you get. And I'll tell you what, for years and years and years, I didn't even realise I was a psychic, I just thought I was incredibly intuitive. However, when I started exploring my psychic awareness. Suddenly, it was almost like there was a bit of a jar in the way in some way.

Because it was like, now I'm trying to do something, but it's something I've been doing my whole life. When we say psychic. How is that different from being observant, empathic, intuitive? Because it's all one and the same, isn't it? And that's the problem with all these different words. They're all describing, essentially, the same thing in a way, aren't they?

Donna: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, empathy is about how you feel, in regards to something, but the but, yeah, there's the psychic, there is I suppose there is some form of overlap there. But intuitiveness, that is your own natural psyche. I do totally run them words alongside by side. I don't think there's much difference in them myself, but people, you know like the word psychic, but back in my many young, young, much younger years of teens, it got quite tarnished, that word, because people that are fraudulent, etc, And obviously, there is mind magic tactics where people can, you know proclaim to be using that ability in actual, do you know, like, the what's his name? Derren something... Derren, is it? Yeah, Derren Brown, yeah.

Jason: Yes, I love it.

Donna: Yeah, yeah, no, the Men, it's like, yeah, my son's told me recently something about The Mentalist, I don't know, I don't watch much TV, but, so I suppose, in a way, that's, that's why there was a stigma, and I prefer not to use that word, but, it is what we are. It is the psyche that we naturally run, run off. It is that that harnessing feeling, the difference of it being between mind and your psychic, is that the level of the feeling in it, and the energy, it's the energy movement, because, if I'm in my brain, then I'm very, I feel, even then you can see, notice a shift, I can feel a shift in my voice.

So if in my brain I become more logical in the thought process of what I'm doing and my perception of something. Whereas if I go into, the centre of me, and I feel it, then my perception becomes more harnessed, more expanded, and more noticeable to the depth of it, and the layers, whereas my brain will make the layers, you know? And it's that. So it's in the feeling and the energy of noticing the subtle shift within yourself. To pick up the what is The difference, really.

09:35Sensitivity: turning the dial up, and why we turn it down

Jason: Well, this is one of the problems, isn't it, with developing mediumship before you've even understood energy, because it, first of all, you really need to understand about your energy. You really need to become, this is all about turning up the volume knob on your sensitivity, and it's like a mic input, you know. If anything, I was getting Donna to turn hers down before we started recording, but, with that Well, I'm one of the people where you wouldn't even want to give me a mic, forget the mic entirely, I don't need it.

But, You know, this is the thing, when you are starting to develop psychic, it is all about opening up, increasing your sensitivity, and becoming super aware. And that can be, in so many different ways. Energetically, the first thing I will say about someone is I get a very instant feeling for people, and it's almost like something that I finally, not almost like something, it is something that I've finally tuned for so many years of my life, and in the police, I made sure that it was a sort of lie detector, which actually I kept on in my legal recruitment days, because it would help me understand if someone was just trying to use me for pay leverage or, a counteroffer.

But the problem is is it's, you know it helped me a lot in my life, but, sometimes it doesn't help you when you become so sensitive that you can see through things. You know, I found earlier in my life that I would struggle to make friends, because it was almost like in that sort of early stage of getting to know someone, if someone would lie to me, I would instantly, due to some past trauma, that I had with people not being very nice to me, would sort of run a mile.

So it can be a blessing and a curse, and a lot of the time. People's sensitivity, they get to a place, I think, of suppressing it for a long time, and almost because of the reason that it can be very difficult to live with sensitivity. So sometimes, and a lot of the time, if you're listening to this episode now, you're probably just gonna be, Perhaps opening it back up, re-exploring it, sort of embracing it, because in this world that we live in now, with people as they are, and the distractions around us, turning up a sensitivity knob is something you don't, necessarily want to do, because it can be quite difficult, can't it?

Donna: It can, and I totally agree with you. In my younger years, I found it extremely hard to navigate, because I would know instantly if somebody was lying, if they had any, ill feeling towards me of any, of any kind, or even if, if they had positive feelings towards me, then obviously you acknowledge that and that's fine, but it does make life very hard to navigate at times in your younger years, I do believe, as a natural sensitive, as a when you're naturally tuned into that psyche, which some of us are, some of us have to work more with it. Yeah, I mean.

Jason: But you only need to look at, in schools, don't you? As soon as a child is young, I can remember so many times where it's like, stop being so sensitive. You know, and if you're a sensitive person, you suppress that and actually, it led to a lot of problems in my life, and I was trying to not show sensitivity, because, even in my school days, I was being bullied for being gay after the cat got out the bag. In that regard. So, I was suppressing that with all my might. And then I sort of stepped into that in my Virgin days, because it almost became something that was embraced when I was a cabin crew, because it was almost like I could really give people great service, and then in the police, it was almost like blindly, you don't want any sensitivity, you don't even want volume level number one when it comes to sensitivity.

But you mentioned something interesting before, which was about, when you're in your head, and when you're not, and this is a big thing, and this is during this series, we're gonna go down many rabbit holes, but when I'm in my head, I always notice this, my, the way I talk, it's very, staggered, stop-starty, it's jolty. And when I'm in the power, when I'm in the way I'm feeling and expressing myself in that way, rather than logically, I always find that you can even tell in episodes, because I'm so used to listening back to myself, that's the thing.

When you produce a podcast, if you ever want to start a podcast you know, you will very quickly get over how you sound, but I've got over that long ago, the sound of my voice, because I've listened back to my recordings, all the time, I used to listen back to when I was negotiating on calls, where the calls are recorded. It's a big part of my training. I used to play back my call recordings to budding, young, aspiring salespeople. So, I've been used to listening to my own voice, but, I don't even know where I'm particularly going with this now, but, I've been, I've been in that environment, and I've been fine-tuning it for a long time.

So, you're going to be listening to this episode at many different points in your, journey. And, I always, as soon as I meet someone, I instantly get a feeling about them and their energy. And, energy lives not just in being with someone, but even in a photo, doesn't it? Because, I've had times in my life where I'm on these dating sites. And I don't like them, I think they absolutely, I think they're one of the most saddest things in the world, dating apps. Because I think that the days of going out and courting and all of that just seems to have died.

And I just find that everyone's trying to be someone that they're not, even Hinge. It's like, the most silliest questions to almost just try, and I just think it's, for a sensitive person, it's just not a great environment to be in because it's the Wild West out there in dating at the moment, Donna.

15:27Reading energy from a photo, and the dating app detour

Donna: Yeah, I can agree with that because many years ago, when I first split up with my husband, well, not first, obviously, but, I was encouraged to join some of the figures, like, nope, nope, nope, and it was literally based off what I could feel off of photos, literally, literally that. And, it is like the Wild West out there, like, it's, that is a scary domain to be in. You know, and since, I've heard some awful stories about, people's experiences of being online, so, with the with the online dating, I mean, yeah, I wouldn't want to be there, yeah, I just wouldn't want to be there.

I'd never advise anybody to do that and trust their natural psyche with that because I'm sure that someone would guide them elsewhere. In saying that I have heard of stories where people have met partners on things, such things as Tinder and POF. And, married and Oh, POF, that's a nice.

Jason: Old one, isn't it?

Donna: Yeah, without spectrum, yeah, yeah.

Jason: A lot of people are going to be listening to this one, what the hell is POF? Do you know what? If you don't know what POF is I don't want to tell you what it is because you're going to waste a hell of a lot of time, and it's like fishing in a river and bringing up an old tyre. You know, don't go on POF, because you won't be bringing up any fish, I can assure you of that. Maybe the old boot, if you're lucky.

Donna: That's like swimming in the bottom of the abyss, that is.

Jason: Well, it is it is honestly, it's not great, it's almost, I don't know what it is with that site, and my brother said to me, not so long ago, but I've joined it, and I said, get off of there, get off of there, it is dire. You know, if I was to go on there with my psychic, faculties turned on. I say turns on, they're never turned off, but, if I was to go on there, it would, I would be getting some very, probably sketchy feelings, that's for sure. And if you're on there now, please don't let me deter this. This is not a podcast of fear, let me tell you that.

Donna: Yeah, some people do, obviously, it does work for some people, and but it is true, the emphasis of it is is that you can even, your own natural psyche will read from a picture, and that's the that'll be true for everybody and what they feel, like in that gut, You know, instant feeling. But the the psyche can pretty much read off anything. You know, I could sit in a chair and feel a bit like, oh, who sat here before me? You know, so, You know, the psyche is the natural radar, your natural navigation system.

17:49Living with it day to day: switching on, sound and trust

Jason: So when you are, obviously, as a very, because people are going to be listening to this, you notice that you sit down on this, lovely chair that's been sat on by a lovely George Clooney-type figure, how do you switch this on, off? How do you navigate your life if you're picking up, is it literally you go to sit down on a chair in a cafe, and your daughter has to go and get 10 for you to sort of examine energetically? How does this work day to day?

Donna: No, it's, no, it's just something you do naturally. It's more in my younger years, which I've said previously, that I was just very much, I was just open, continually open. I'd always come across people and say, oh, you need to shut down, you need to shut down, and it was only when I was at the college that one time that That, that really, that natural process, and I was in my 40s, early 40s, 41? began to happen, because obviously I needed to learn to live without the guides there on constant tab, like, a constant conversation.

And so with that then I sort of like, naturally, my intuition learned to sort of like, simmer down. I mean, it's always there, it's always awake. But, you can feed into it, or, or not, depending on how you feel. You know, for somebody that's beginning, it might be a great tool for them to just see how they feel in particular environments. Because it's also true as, a natural intuitive, or somebody that's developing, that you, you might pick, you might feel like you've having a really happy day. And you go somewhere where you're sat, amongst a few other people, and you start feeling really, down, and thinking, why do I feel like this?

And actually, it isn't your feeling, your emotion, it's the vibration of which you're picking up on from somebody in the room. You know, and that is again, because, the natural, psyche, psychic, intuitive, whatever you want to call it, is just this, you are it. It is it is you, it is the centre of the the human being.

Jason: Mmm. Well, it's, the way I, where I am right now in my, you know the Jason of the current moment. I can feel the vibration of people when I walk down the road, and I can instantly tell a glass half full, generally, to a glass half empty. You know, I used to have this thing when I was young, where I used to be able to because I'd meet new people all the time, I used to have fun with sort of guessing people's jobs and whatever, and it's almost like I used to take a bit of fun in doing so.

But it's like, I have to live my life in a way that You know, I'm, I always want to go around and be kind and and give acts of kindness, but, and especially, You know, it's, but it is difficult. It's difficult, when you're very sensitive, because equally, I can get very, impatient, and things can grate on me. You know, sound is something that oh, sound and actually light and colour, which is going to be what we're talking about today, are all things I'm really sensitive to. Like, I know this sounds, almost very diva-ish.

But if I get into my brother's car, and he's got on music that I don't like, I just can't, it's, like, going through me like chalk on a chalkboard. You know, I'm not sure if that's more reflective of his music taste, but there's nothing really wrong with his music taste, if I'm being honest with you. But, I'm very sensitive to sound, but equally, if I go to when I was very unwell. I, with psychosis many, many, many years ago. I, my mum had me out trying everything, from acupuncture, which acupuncture, I do have to say, that if you get a good therapist, I can't rate it enough, but you've got to make sure you get someone who knows what they're doing, because otherwise they can do a lot of damage.

But one thing, one of the things that she got me, and nothing worked, I was absolutely in the gutters at the point in my life, but one thing that did work is she sent me to see this guy called Eddie. Now, he was a shamanic man of many talents, I want to say, Eddie, and he dresses like, you've kind of maybe just found him in some African tribe somewhere, I don't know, but he, very quirky. But that the thing is in Bristol and Glastonbury, where I live, that's kind of pretty standard in dress most days, so that doesn't really stand out, you see.

But he, laid me on this bed, and then he starts with his mouth, just making all of this very hypnotic, vibrational, noises, and it's almost like, And he basically got his hands over my stomach, and as he built up the rhythm, with the vibration of his voice, he climaxed it to a point where all of a sudden, I felt him pull all of this, like, gunk energy out of me, and I'll tell you a funny story, he came over to mine, because he stopped, doing it in the town where I live.

So he told me he did home sessions, so I got him over one night. And I failed to really take into account how loud it is when it's in your room. And he said, oh, you don't mind me, do I have to be quite quiet with the noise after, before he started? And I said, no no, don't worry about any of that just do what you need to do. And we was about 20 minutes in and all I kept thinking about was it was so loud, and I must, I just kept thinking, what the hell must the next-door neighbor be thinking?

Because he's got his drum out, and you know, I actually didn't relax, because it was I just, I could even feel the walls vibrating, and I just thought, what the hell must they be thinking is going on next door? You know. But stage one is trust, isn't it? You've got to learn to start trusting the way you feel, and I can think of so many times in my life during my business career, where I've gone up to the head, and it's starting to learn, isn't it, that it's about following the way you feel.

But the problem is is we're constantly playing this tug-of-war between, right and left-hand side of the brain, primitive, logical brain being larger in size, and more dominant. So it's very difficult, and especially if you're in a place where you're in a stressful time in your life, things aren't particularly going well, you're gonna be, in your mind, in that state of fight or flight, aren't you? So it can be very hard to start trusting in how you feel, but I can tell you this now, dear listener, and I'm sure, write it on a postcard if you disagree with this.

But, generally, if you follow what you feel, I always feel you, even if it's not, necessarily looking like it's the best decision for you in that time or whatever, I believe you are following you know, your soul's divine guidance, if you follow how you feel. When I look back at my, repertoire of life lessons from, my filing cabinet of Bristol to Manchester, I can see a clear distinction between feeling and thinking.

24:58Feeling versus thinking: learning to follow what you feel

Donna: Yeah, yeah, I totally agree with that. It is about how you feel, always. And that will, even if you do disagree with what you're getting you'll find long, in the long journey of it, that will be exactly where you're meant to be. And that's a process as well, because there is an energy to be built with that and that's about sitting within your own power, which obviously starts with meditation, and then leading into sitting within, the divinity of your own light, and expanding in that and then that also then You know, enhances your intuition in what you feel, because obviously, that grows, and then the trust, like you said, the trust of it, you know will expand with that you know? I always trust myself now, but do I always follow it? No, I don't, because the human.

Jason: And just the day.

Donna: Today, like, even after a lifetime, no, we don't.

Jason: Well, I can think of so many occasions recently. I'm one of these people where, I can be, like, like a lot of my family will know, a bull in a china shop is a saying I've had many times throughout my life. It's a blessing and a curse. It's responsible for many successes, and many rolls of the dice too quickly. But, I, when I look back at my business career, and I look at how much I was in my mind at times, and trying, with all my might, to find, think about solutions.

And I just, I even think back to the pandemic. But I'm very good. It put me in a absolute, sort of disaster zone type territory, and I seem to come into my own in those moments. I'm sort of someone that would be very good to have not that I ever want to be in one, but in some sort of disaster zone, because suddenly I seem to come alive in those moments. And actually, that's been very reflective in my last business's history, actually. You know, what some, at times, we were really struggling, but then because we get to that point, I suddenly excel, and then we take off again, and it's almost like, Jesus Christ, this, Blackpool rollercoaster, the Big Dipper, that I'm constantly on.

It's, it's, like, almost like I felt like I just wanted to get off. I'd been, on it for 10 years. But, it can be difficult for people, it can be, hard, because, I often think that sometimes the first feeling, the first impression is the one that you need to listen to but then what happens is we can get other people weighing in we can really start thinking about things. And then we can almost, not knowing, it depends where you are in Trusting how you feel. A lot of the time, we might not even know how we're feeling, you know?

We might be out of touch with that. So really, this journey is about increasing that sensitivity, but the reason I wanted to talk at the start about how you navigate that is because this series, I really want it to be about, if you're going on that journey, what you're going to experience, because I hear so often from people that email in and people I meet along my journey, who tell me that living their life, yes, they hear about how to connect, yes, they're doing psychic readings, yes, they're on this journey, but it's about, living life outside of these classes and whatever.

It's, put me on a course, mediumship, absolutely bloody bliss, but as soon as I drive out and I'm in the supermarket, oh my goodness me, absolute, overload. So, navigating this journey can be difficult. So, moving on to the subject of today's discussion, which is colour. Now Talk to me about colour, Donna.

28:34What is colour? Vibration, perception and why it shifts

Donna: Well, that's a perception for anybody in a specific moment within their feelings. I mean, when you're reading colour from the psyche, what one colour means to you one day may mean something totally different the next. And so you know, there's an expansion in that in itself. And obviously, colour all holds different vibrations, that's why colours are used subjectively out in the world. That's why you'll find, like, often stuff linked with food is not linked to blue, because blue is a colour that's almost, like, is opposite of the appetite. It doesn't. That as well, yeah.

Jason: Cheese, and I love those pungent, smelly cheeses. I think it's a thing with age, the sort of thing that stinks your fridge out, you need to get a new fridge because you've not wrapped it properly.

Donna: Yeah, that I mean, the tickets, like, red, you'll often find, like, red and yellow signs, because their colours are sort of like, draw you in. But you know, when you're reading them, which, I mean, I, people, I remember I've done the task once in a something that's about the colour black, and I was like, actually, I love the way this colour feels. And they was a bit like, ugh, because they associated it negatively for them. But for me, it felt like expansion. It felt, it felt like everything. It felt, it felt like oneness, there was such beauty and wholeness in it.

And, it was about how I felt within that day. There may well be days, like, you were just saying a minute ago, you know the journey of the human day-to-day, that natural psyche will be heightened one day and not so much the next, because maybe we're going through something. Maybe something bad's happened, and then we just don't know where we are within our emotions, which makes it hard to sort of am I in my head? Am I, where am I? So, it's the same with the colour. That will shift and change depending on who you're reading it for where they are in that moment, what you're looking at, so it can be used to look at specific areas.

I mean, colour can be used for a multitude of things. You can use it to tap into anything, really, within a a spiritual working field, you know. I mean, I haven't ever used colour to try and thing for somebody with a mediumship reading, but as I'm sitting here, I feel naturally, intuitively, that that potentially could work, you know, moving to the colour because we always move into the psyche prior to a mediumship reading anyway, even if you believe you don't, that energy of your own will always be expanding to move into that moment of the medium.

And so, the potentiality of working with colour, and it's very healing, you know? There's a very healing vibration. All colour has its own healing vibrations, and again, I feel that that changes and shifts with where the person is at the current time.

Jason: You're right, colour does have a frequency. I am really sensitive to I think, name things that I'm not sensitive to but colour is something that I am, it changes my mood, even to the point where what I wear every day, that the energy within that colour, really determines so much of my mood and whatever. I've always been really sensitive to lighting, and I drive my mum absolutely mad, because I go in and she's got, like, the sort of glary big lights on on the ceiling, and I'm just so sensitive to that.

So much so that I actually even got referred to an eye hospital for an investigation, maybe in my 20s, I think, for being that sensitive to colour. But now I know, I look back at all these things, why am I sensitive to colour? Well, it's just the way I am, it's what I'm meant to be doing. But I even find that I've got this colour deck, and I was literally just trying to look for it, while you were talking there. But it's got so many different colours in it, and I will use those cards, sometimes just sit with them, because they do have an energy, and there's gonna be, people listening to this thinking, okay, so, what are you, when you're saying about reading colour what does that really mean? And because I've done readings, with just the colour cards. How do you read colour? What does that mean?

32:37How to read a colour: magenta for Jason, gold for Donna

Donna: Well, it's about the vibration, it's the vibration of the colour in regards to the vibration of the person and where they're at. It's the same as really using a tarot card, you know? Whatever you're feeling in regards to the psyche of the vibration towards that person, and what you're feeling, what you're seeing, what you're, you may be sensing will, the vibration of the colour, will just expand in that. You know, say, for example, you're a magenta today, because I do feel magenta with you today. And that's an underlying excitement about things, and there's a.

Jason: The colour is magenta, I'm trying to think what that is.

Donna: That's like a dark pink, somewhere in between.

Jason: A dark electric pink.

Donna: And before you're getting into, like, a violet, well, not a violet, but an electric-type violet, I think. I think I might even be wrong with that colour, but it's like a magenta colour, which actually, Spirit have said to me before, moves within the peripherals of above the ground chakra, and interestingly showed me that once. So that's interesting, because as I, I do feel that with you, it feels like, there's an excitement building with you within your spiritual work, and actually, see, the two, never ceases to remain. But, that's, because you're beginning to work more with this peripheral energy of between you and spirit, as a permanent job.

Jason: It's interesting. It's interesting you say about that colour, because I definitely, do feel that's a colour that I'm very attracted to and actually. I gravitate towards certain colours. Like, even this wall behind me that's a very dark green, it's a very calming, green, because I actually remember when it was first put on the walls, the first coat, I didn't like it. I thought, oh, it's so light! It didn't look like that at all. But after another 5 coats, or however many it was it did eventually go into that that kind of colour, but I'm starting to think that I almost want to go dark blue like the other room.

I almost feel with you at the moment, I'm going through, because I've, I've just, if you're tuning, in now, I've just paused the conversation to find the colour cards, which I've now got, very excitingly. But I'm feeling very drawn to golds for you at the moment. What colour does it actually say this card is? Oh no, this is a brown-yellow cast. Pure colour. If you're interested to know this colour, I can even give you the code, 60533C, if you want to look into this exact colour. As if. But I actually feel with you, this is very much, I feel this is a really earthy tone, and I really feel this is about, you connecting to everything you've ever known, connecting to your true nature.

And I almost see the gold being just almost as there's this elegance now about you realising the value of you. And you actually realising how priceless you've always been, because this colour has always been within you. And with that there's a stepping of you into your own true power, but it's this gold, it's not, I'm not feeling here like a light gold. I'm seeing just such a really, I want to say almost a very vintage piece, Donna King, a very vintage piece of gold. But there's a richness here to it, there's a real richness, and that's of your character.

So, you can see already how, you can read from a colour, and I could do a whole reading about this, I could go back to your early days, about your childhood, and about how you felt about your sensitivity then, and that was probably much more a green back then. There was almost a naivety back then, and it's almost like this richness colour has come through, the University of Life experience, and my God, my dear, you'd have a PhD in one of those.

Donna: I would, I would. And actually, I can totally understand that because, that sort of like, deep, vibrant yellow is very much my colour of the week at the moment, and I was actually wearing a jumper that colour earlier today, so, I only took it off because of the menopausal sweats, so.

Jason: Well, it happens, it happens, it's not, never put me in white, it's an awful colour. Anything white has to go to my mum's for the bicarbonate of soda, because within 2 seconds, it's got coffee on it, and all.

Donna: My kids would agree with you, though, with the whites. But, it's funny, because interestingly enough, my bed is the colour of your back wall, and obviously.

Jason: That's true.

Donna: Yeah, I do love that deep, dark green, and actually the curtains in my room are this sort of like, deep yellow. And my wall in my front room is navy. So we, yeah, touching on the touching on the different colours, I suppose, as well, it's that element of because there's warmth in that the depth of it. And, I can totally understand that because I have been pushed to this point right now, get on with this teaching. Put yourself out there. Show people the way, because regardless of where you're at within your capabilities, regardless of where you've come from, regardless of when you first started using them abilities, the everybody has a purpose and their part to play within their own spiritual journey, if that's where they feel led. So, you know. For me, I'm passionate about that. I'm passionate about helping people to grow within that alongside spirit.

37:50Why colour charts never worked for me

Jason: I think I'm very, very passionate about it, because I feel that ultimately it comes back down to people trusting in themselves, believing in themselves, because actually, all of this, when you actually strip it back, psychic mediumship, it's all about you trusting in how you feel. And this journey is all about trusting in yourself. And you might be listening to this thinking, well, of course I trust in myself. I'm the only person I trust in right now. But there's very different levels of trust. There's very different levels of your level of belief in yourself.

You know, you could be someone that trusts in yourself, but you're very much in a mindset of wanting safety, wanting what you perceive to be comfort. And, everyone is on their own path and grows at different rates. I would like to say that I am a quick learner. In some regards, I am, but I am also someone that has had to learn the hard way a lot of the time, but I, normally someone, if I make a mistake twice, then I've learnt my lesson, unless, maybe, I like to think so.

But, these days, I kind of risk-manage that by always really checking in with how I feel. And if I'm really stuck on a decision, I will sit on it, and I will push the brake pedal, no matter how much my right foot is tempting me over to the accelerator. So when we look at colour, I remember a few years ago, at the very beginning of my mediumship journey, I was in a class with a very well-respected medium who's very passionate about, colour, and in this workshop. It was an hour's workshop, and I remember just sitting there, scribbling notes on what red meant, what yellow meant, what green meant, and like many of us do when we go on these spiritual courses or whatever, we're obsessed with our notebooks, aren't we?

We're absolutely obsessed with writing things down. And have I ever referred back to any of my notes? No, because I'm only ever writing forwards. So, but we sit there and we obsess. But I remember thinking in this workshop, well, okay, yes, okay, red kind of means this, and it wasn't really making sense to me, because the way the colour was being taught was through, almost a logical perspective. This is what red means, this is and I thought, well, I'm not feeling, and now I think to myself, all you need to do to teach colour is to say, how do you feel about the colour?

You know, not this meant, and I've even got it. I think, you get things that you stick to your fridge, and things that the other day, I had a fridge declutter, and I found my notes from this of what red meant and what ever, and I looked at it, and I thought, what a load of old tosh, this thing is. And it's funny, because as I was going through the fridge, I found my make sure you sit in the power every day signs, then I found my cheque to the universe.

And I thought, all of this has got a vibration. This is going in my feel-good folder in my office. But it was funny, some of the treasures I came across during that fridge declutter that was almost weighing my fridge door down so much, like that bridge in Paris where people put their love locks on, so I had to had to remove what was on my fridge. So, colour. It's about how you feel, but, so if you are looking at colour in this way right now, wanting to think, okay, what does each colour mean?

It means what it feels like to you. When I was at my last company. I distinctly remember, at the very beginning, I'd been given by the marketing agency 5 different logos, that were all very different, and I was very drawn to the red one, and all the others were quite non-offensive, greens, blues, teals. And I thought red, and I, I thought to myself, firstly, this is a kind of danger colour. Do I want to go red? But I thought about it in so much detail, because I started thinking, right when the jobs are advertised on the job board, and you get the red in the box, and then what you do is you invert it, so you do the white, so it's the red, and I thought, no, that really stands out.

But, honestly, I remember one time when my ex came home. And for someone to work, who worked in marketing, he did. He wasn't very understanding, because I had all these different logos and all these slightly different shades of red, and I said, I just can't pick between this one, this one, and this one. He looked at me and said. They're all exactly the same. I said, no, no, no, no, no, they're subtle differences. So even then, I was very sensitive, but that logo was never changed, and it stood the test of time.

Donna: Yeah, well, red being, it is a sales colour, that's why they use, you do see red a lot within the sales, thing, because obviously colours, psychologically, have their own impression and their own facts, as I said a minute ago. I mean, it's true that when you're reading with colour as well, you can pick up on symbols and You know, images, because the natural psyche will, your Clairs will, kick in. So, there's all other factors within the feel of that that should be, should, envelop and unfold, and obviously teaching. You know, teachers should be there to sort of help you do that unfold, that ability to recognise within you, and work with their own natural It's, soul navigation system to help you develop in that I mean, red for me, today, would be very much sort of about, like, passion, movement, forward, that's what I feel of red today.

43:22Same card, two readings: colour as a tool that takes the pressure off

Jason: Do you know what, though? You are exactly right, because I always find, and this is just my perspective when it comes to teachers. And, because I've sampled a lot during my time. And I always found that people that were teaching me technique and saying, right, you need to kind of do this, you need to push this out, you need to do this, all that ever did on reflection was put me in my head. And I always feel that something like, these subjects needs to be taught always through, encouraging the person to feel, not to be thinking on what these different things mean.

And I just want to emphasise, colour is it's so personal, it's all about what that colour means to you. So, for instance, Donna, if I pull this colour out, which is 21 orange shade, add black, it's a very, sort of looks like quite a dark red, very, very reddy-orangey colour. What does this mean or feel like to you?

Donna: So I can feel an expansion in my heart with that. It does, it feels, I can feel an expansion, it just feels like growth, Again, movement, because movement's very significant for me at the moment. And being very grounded in that having learned the the different aspects. And it's funny because we mirror each other quite a lot. It's like, we're extremely different, but there's many things that are very the same, and it feels like that with you. Feet firmly on the floor, but here we go, but moving with purpose. That's what I feel with that right now.

Jason: I really feel this colour, to me, is really elegant, it's very classy, it's very calming, it's very soothing, it's very rich, it's very peaceful. Again, if I was to read it, see, now I'm looking at it, so this is the interesting thing with colour now I'm looking at it, I'm seeing a gold in it, but I didn't see at the beginning. It looked like a totally different shade, and I'm now seeing this being almost like another dimension to you, in terms of just the richness of you, the richness of your personality, and how, I just think the depth of what you've done with your life.

And it's interesting, because you could show this card to a totally different person person, and they would feel something differently. But the key point being. It's about how you feel, because we all have our internal language, of how we feel things, because you've got to remember, if you go around the world, we all have connotations to colours, we're all aware that if we're looking for an emergency exit, we're looking for something green. You know, we, and we're aware red is a danger colour. So yes, certain colours will, and because that colour has that frequency, because so many people associate that colour, it's almost like the universe in the morphic field of that colour has that vibration, because you, it's like a baby.

A baby has an instinct on what colours kind of mean, because of the fact that we've got these connotations to them. But when you're coming to do readings, and the reason why colour is such a good thing to read with is when you're starting out in the early days of your psychic, and let's say. Because you need to vary it up. How you learn to be psychic is by trying lots of different ways of doing things. It's about experimenting to ultimately find what is your way. And your way should be your way.

It shouldn't be, you trying to learn the way a teacher does things. But in the early days, the good thing could be, rather than just sitting there and feeling, loads of pressure on yourself, which is probably the number one way of we all feel at the very beginning, but it's also the number one thing that impacts this. If you're in your head about, oh, I must get this right, or I must make sure this, straight away you're not in your feeling, because to be, in the feeling state requires you to be in the right-hand side of the brain, and if you're thinking about, how worried you are, I hope I get this right, you're in the left-hand side of the brain, so you're in the wrong side of the brain to start with.

But this is this can be difficult, and it's very important that you don't beat yourself up, but using tools like this takes the pressure off. Because if I was to give, say to someone, pick a card, okay, now I'm gonna read into the card. The card is acting as a deflection, so it takes the pressure off the person because they're doing a reading into the card, rather than into the person, which is why, we was even discussing on the phone the other day how the tarot cards are very helpful, but they're a piece of theatre to them, almost a distraction, they're an energetic deflection, or reflection in some ways, aren't they?

And that's what, when you're starting out, and I even remember someone, doing experiments and doing complete 20-minute readings based on a flower, holding a rose, and looking at the way the petals are, the formations of the leaves, and whatever. So it's that journey, and using these tools, and like you said, using anything to read into, to start to fine-tune, turn up that sensitivity dial. Like, one of the things I want to do in our classes, that I'm so excited for is and I don't want to say too much about this, because then people are going to come to the class and know what I'm going to do, but I want to get photos of different historic photos that I know have a real history and a story behind them to get people to read into, because it's about developing and building up people's trust and confidence in themselves, is it not?

Donna: It is absolutely, and that is a really good tactic to use, because for somebody that maybe beginning on their journey as well, there's a it's like a tool, isn't it? I always use them instead as a tool. I never use tarot cards, but, I've got many pairs, and I will use them now, because sometimes the human needs to see something, but it is just a tool into a moment of how, that trusting that inner guidance that feeling within your chest of the movement of where am I going with this, what am I feeling, what do I see, and opening that up and moving with it.

49:17Tarot, playing cards and reading from anything

Jason: I'll tell you what, if I was gonna do, because I remember, at the very early days of my journey, I, came across this, lovely lady, very wholehearted lady. She was a psychic who did tarot, but she was how would I describe her? She was sort of had her fingers in a lot of different pies, and she had all these different tarot groups, and I do remember, as I was learning the tarot, I actually, this is the crazy thing, right? I've been reading people for all these years, this finely tuned intuition, I could tell you anything, but when we started the tarot, obviously we start looking at the cards and the meaning of the cards, and then I got, this book from her.

And I thought, so I went to do tarot readings, and I thought, I'm stuck in I'm not really getting it, because I'm thinking so much about what each card means, and I laugh now, because I would sit there, and I'd get me book out of all the meanings, and I'd spend ages looking, so I'd go, I've got the Two of Swords here, right, I've got the Hierophant, right, okay. Okay. Right, okay, then back to the Two of Swords. And I think to myself, I'm not doing anything here. So I actually, at the very, very beginning of my journey, actually, felt that the cards, were a hindrance for me.

And actually, that stayed with me for quite a while. And if I was going to teach someone, even the tarot now. I would really try to not spend too much time on the actual, textbook definition of the cards, because you can get lost in the symbology and the archetypes and the astrology behind it. And you could spend 20 years researching this stuff, couldn't you?

Donna: Yeah, absolutely. I'd totally say never. Don't even worry yourself with that. I mean, as somebody that grew up from, like, 5-6, playing with tarot cards because they was around the house, it never really dawned on me until my teens, really. What do they mean? What are they about? And I then never even got to grips with it, because it really doesn't matter, and what you do find is why you're, when you're reading and you're tapping into your own natural ability, that you'll find that what you're saying will tie into the cards.

Even as you move on to the next one, you'll find the next bit of information that you're psychically going to be reading will naturally flow with that card is the cards will line up with what you're getting. Forget what they mean in form of tarot, logic, unless that's what you do, and that's how you work, and then you want to build on that ability, then you will find that naturally that will unfold, as I've just said anyway you know.

Jason: Well, and you can read, honestly, with any single thing. Like, we can even, right now, I used to do, as if you are a regular listener, you'll know I was a magician, and I'm actually dusting off some of those, old, belongings again, I'm getting back into it. But even with playing cards, you can do a reading. I've never actually done one, but I could do one now. Go on, say stop when you want a card.

Donna: Stop.

Jason: Right, okay. So the ten of clubs. This, for me, with you, already makes me feel of really strong foundations. It makes me feel that you've got your house in order. It makes me feel, it almost makes me feel that you've got such a stability now that you can actually start really prioritising what you want. And it makes me feel that there's almost an urgency to do that because it's almost like the forest, in some way, is almost overgrowing now. It's almost like, come on now, if you don't start taking, action now, you're gonna have to start trimming things back a bit, you're in full bloom, darling, is what I want to say to you.

But with this card, I really feel that it's just got such a sense of groundedness, and also such a sense of. I feel like there's just a big sense of belonging, in this card, and it's just funny, isn't it, how a playing card could suddenly invoke all these different feelings.

Donna: Yeah, I know somebody that's only ever used playing cards to read, and they only read psychically, they're not a medium, and he is phenomenal at it. He actually lives in Brighton. So, it doesn't cease to amaze me, because there was a pack of cards within my house that were tarot-based, but playing cards. I can't recall what they were called. But it doesn't. There is you can read from every, anything. I mean, like you mentioned earlier, flowers, they are a beautiful thing to read from. Or leaves, etc. You know, that's why I've just instigated doing an art course, because that's what Spirit drew me to do.

There is this feeling of using nature to do that and that's a Like, that's something we will be putting to practice as well within a class, like, It's, it's, Yeah, yeah, because it's something that's come up recently with spirit. I think people, need to get back to nature, get back to themselves a little bit. You know, we're so consumed with having to work, et cetera, now, that actually, the.

54:11Experiments, off days and the committee in your head

Jason: Oh, the thing you've got to realise as well is you mustn't be hard on yourself, dear listener, because if you are, for instance, doing a job in London, and you're on the train every day, and then, you're having long days, and this is important to you, but you, you're kind of trying to navigate a muggle world. With all these things going on, work that needs to be done, the pressures, the stresses of life that go with that then, opening up your sensitivity can also be difficult, because it's, it's not, it's something that takes time, it's very gradual, because you might open it, it might bring something up for you, like something from your past, or something that during the process of you healing, because the thing with these modalities is they're all very healing, because they, make you look, very much inwards at, you, your energy, and it's a journey of healing, and actually, that's why it's a journey that I've just, can't stop being on, because it, it healed me in so many ways.

But, it can be difficult, and it can, it can really be difficult. But I, I have to admit that I'm doing, I do experiments all the time, and one thing I get my mum to do quite often, actually, is I get her to hold a few of these colour cards. And, to guess, what colour is on. And the interesting thing is like, if I've been away doing a week of mediumship, and this has happened a few times, if I'm away and I've been in my power, working a lot, the energy of the spirit in that place, I come home, I honestly, have had it where I've done five in a row, the exact shade, and then I've even had instances where she switched colour, but I got the the first colour, then the second colour.

But the funny thing is then if I try that a few days later, I can never ever do it as good as that because of the fact that I've been in that that kind of energy. But this is the this is the thing, though if you say to because I've got a very quick mind, as have you with ADHD brain, if you was to say to me right now, like, okay, what's the colour I'm thinking of? My, every part of me wants to just say the colour that immediately comes to me, but the thing is we trick ourselves, because in that moment, you might not have even picked the colour, and I'm not, I'm just letting my mind dish me something.

And there's a difference between feeling it, and I know when I'm feeling it, because, that can take different amounts of time. There's some times when I, for instance, go to do a reading where my energy is already in that place, my energy is high vibration, it's in that place where I'm really in my power, and then I'm very receptive. But if I've had a day where I've had a bad night's sleep, or I'm not feeling particularly good, then what happens is I may not do as well in do as well, this is not a very helpful barometer, because it's a barometer of judgment, but the difference being, I know why that is but we give ourselves a hard time, and a lot of the time you might be starting to develop this, get it wrong, know why you've got it wrong, because you've got a lot of your mind, but then, beat yourself up for it.

So you've got to be very gentle with yourself, because opening up the sensitivity really is a journey as well. How you speak to yourself, how that committee in your mind, is it a kind committee that you have? Is it an encouraging committee? Is it a committee that's even on your side, you know? Or is it a committee that's like a bunch of food critics judging you know, a restaurant. And it's a journey about being very kind. And I do feel colours are extremely, extremely healing and powerful. And even as I hold these cards now, a big, load of them, it's almost, like, overpowering, because there's so many different shades there.

Like, every part of me, I don't know what it is when I hold these cards, I just want to start sorting them almost into energetic, like, if I hold up this really bright pink. How offensive is that colour right now? It's almost, like, so offensive, this bright fuchsia pink. I'm very sorry if your, front, wall rooms are in this colour, but unfortunately for me, this is like chalk on a chalkboard. For you, I actually feel that this is a colour, and I know that you're gonna be thinking this. Now, wait, I reckon, at some point, you have dressed in this colour, and I want to say it was a tracksuit.

Donna: I'm not sure I have, but, I'm not, I like that colour, though. You know, that that colour, I wouldn't have it on my wall, because it would, it wouldn't be peaceful.

Jason: No, it has an element of tack, tackiness to me, this colour.

Donna: Yeah, yeah, I agree with that actually, I think, but that is actually, there's quite a high vibration in that colour within regards to spiritual stuff, so, It's intense!

Jason: It's intense. That's the thing with this card, it's intense. I actually feel if I was to meditate with this card, it would really quicken up my energy.

Donna: Yes Yes. Different areas of different areas within your life will feel differently in relation to that card.

Jason: I find this black card very sad. You know, I always look at the black card as, to me, this always, I could, but the funny thing is I'm looking at this black today, and it's making me feel, of death, and the end, and the ends, but at the end of something is always the start of something else, as well. So I'm almost looking at this card as a card of rebirth. But ask me tomorrow, I might feel differently about this card. And colours evolve within us, and how we feel about colours evolved.

You know, you only need to look at colours that you were perhaps attracted to in your teenage years, and early 20s, and then look at what you're attracted to now, and I bet you're not wearing the same shades, because we say that don't we? We say, you need to sort of tone down when you get to a certain age. I don't believe in that. I think you should be vibrant. If you want to be vibrant and bright. My darling listener, then do so, do so.

1:00:16Building your palette: colour decks, journalling and trust

Donna: Yeah, I never used to wear bright colours, to be honest, but I do now, more so, you know? I had the like, deep yellow jumper on earlier, from the.

Jason: Sixties?

Donna: It's a woollen one. It's a lot nicer than that sounded. But, I never used to wear bright colours. As a child, I did, and then through my teens and that I just did, and that was years where I just really sort of had to sort of put myself out there to fit in so I did, I just, yeah.

Jason: Oh, don't we do that? We try to fit in we wear colours that we feel are acceptable. You know, I love it when I see someone down a high street, like, someone who's in their 50s or 60s or, 70s, whatever age, dressing really bright and vibrant, I just instantly know that that's probably someone I'm gonna like to some degree, and that's, But I've always kind of gone for it's funny, isn't it? Because even when I was younger, I would go for a lot of dark shades, and these days, I'm a lot brighter.

But I'll never wear anything too bright, because I'm not someone that wants to stand out. You know, and well, if I do, if I'm gonna wear a bright colour, I'll be wearing it with the intention of wanting to stand out. The thing I would say to people as well, listening to this, is as you're starting to develop, I would really recommend, if colour's something that interests you, getting one of these colour decks. Now, you don't need to get one as big as mine, you could even get a colour wheel. This one's got a ridiculous amount of colours.

But I put my, what I sometimes do is I put, like, 20 of them in envelopes, and I do that with psychometry and cards as well a lot, where you have the different square, triangle, whatever, and I put them in cards and I fill them. But I would almost suggest, when you're starting to work with colour, to almost, take the cards and kind of sit with them, and notice the colour, feel the colour and then observe what the colour, kind of brings up within you. And then, from doing that you're going to start to understand what your palette looks like.

You know, so, and that's a good way to start, because a lot of people might be thinking, oh, I want to really start working with colour, or perhaps do readings. But what I would recommend, and I do think this is a good way to look at it, because it really means, even calling it your palette is very much, About you, tuning into your power. And then what I would advise you to do, and anyone on the at any point in their journey, I think there's so much value in keeping a journal, and my journal is like, my most sacred, like, thing.

It comes everywhere with me, and sometimes it's more of a workbook, sometimes it's more of a reflection. And I always notice, if my life is starting to go through an absolutely bloody wonky patch, I'm all, I never write in my diary during those patches. It's almost like I don't want to sort of look in the mirror in some regards, but that's something I work on these days, because I know that if I'm not writing in the diary, generally there's a problem. So, Yes, and I would say write down, how you feel about colours, and see how that changes and develops over time, and also see what, sitting with the colours brings up for you?

What emotions does it bring up? What experiences of the past? What might they highlight for you? And by writing it down as well, if you're in the early stage of your development, there is so much power in writing down things that come to you, because when you're starting in this journey, your guides, and the other world will be trying with all their might to reach you in various different ways. And the journey, this journey is ultimately a journey of healing and trust in yourself. And by starting to write things down, and perhaps realise that maybe you wrote something down, and then two months' time, three months' time, whatever it might be.

Something's come up where, which bears synchronicity to that. That journey is all about, I found for me at the beginning it was all about, now in reflection, a journey of learning to trust, and how difficult it was to get my trust. Totally understandable, though, because trust was something that I'd learned to keep very close to me, because of how much Over-trusting had caused me problems in other stages of my life, and A lot of us sensitive people, Donna, as we know, they're not coming into this world because they've been living a life of sunshine and rainbows.

They're coming into it normally off the back of having trodden some kind of hard-trodden path to get here. So, it's a journey of healing.

Donna: Yeah, that is very true. Often you do find, mediums have had, like, tumultuous lives, like, they're never, they're not often an easy path, but we use those tools to to help us within the energetic work to help other people is from healing to healing to healing, from spirit to spirit to spirit. And it was through the unfoldment of this, of the journey within the soul's development, within the psyche, or the mediumship, or whatever that may be, is all part of the process. And, like, sometimes, like you say, we want to ignore the negatives, Because is too hard to deal with at that current time, and I think that's, that is also part of the healing journey, you know?

Everything sort of unfolds as and when it's meant to. So I think, just trusting the journey of the soul, because it just creates more peace within it, accepting everything for where it is you know? And, and how it unfolds, and that's true of your development within your abilities, it's true of your life, but the best guidance would be to To trust what you feel, is the emphasis of all of it, really.

Jason: Trust what you feel. Trust in the journey of your own soul. Beautiful. Well, that's colour. Until next week, Donna King, thank you.

Donna: Thank you, Jason, for having me again.