What Your Body’s Energy Is Trying to Tell You
Soul Sync with Jason Paul, in conversation with Daniel Zavrel. Listen below, or read on for the full write-up and transcript.
One selfie, and a lot of questions
A few weeks before we recorded this episode, Daniel Zavrel asked me to send him one thing: a photo of myself.
So I sent him a selfie. Nothing special. It was me in a suit, sat in a coffee shop in the City of London, on one of those days when I still owned my legal recruitment agency. I was about to walk into a hectic run of meetings with law firms, so if you want a snapshot of me at my most stressed, that was probably it.
Daniel put that photo into what he calls a quantum resonance device. What came back left me sat there thinking, quite literally, "How?"
It picked up my diabetes. It picked up my nut allergy, along with other intolerances. Daniel didn't know about any of it, and I hadn't told him. Then it went deeper, into the patterns of stress I'd been carrying for years.
Now, I'm a medium. I've spent years learning that everything is energy. But seeing it laid out in black and white from nothing more than a phone photo, a few million pixels, connected a lot of dots for me. So I want to share what happened, where these machines actually come from, and, just as importantly, what the science and the sceptics say about them.
Who is Daniel Zavrel?
Daniel is a Dutch business economist who founded the coaching company Consciouz in 1997. He's also a mindfulness trainer and a certified Iyengar yoga teacher. Few people I've met bridge the corporate and spiritual worlds the way he does.
He's trained more than 2,000 officers, staff and detectives in mental resilience at the Dutch National Police. That one made me smile, as a former police officer myself. He also spent four years as mental coach to the first team at PSV Eindhoven, who won the Dutch league three times in that spell. (source)
These days he works online with people all over the world using what he calls the ConsciouzScan, a body and mind scan. He told me his work used to be about 95% corporate. Now it's roughly half private clients, and I could hear how much he loves it.
Where these machines came from
The idea behind them is that every organ, cell and system in the body has its own frequency, and a device can read those frequencies and spot where they're out of balance. You'll see it called bioresonance, quantum resonance or non-linear analysis (NLS). It sounds brand new, but the roots go back decades.
1950s, Germany. Dr Reinhold Voll combined acupuncture points with measurements of the skin's electrical resistance. Electroacupuncture according to Voll became the forerunner of everything that followed. (source)
1977, Germany. Doctor Franz Morell and engineer Erich Rasche introduced bioresonance therapy, first sold as "MORA" after their two surnames. (source)
1970s to 1990s, the Soviet Union and Russia. In Omsk, Siberia, the Institute of Practical Psychophysics developed NLS scanning devices. Their best-known model, the Metatron, came out of that work. (source)
Daniel told me the technology was first developed during the Cold War, at a time of real espionage between the USSR and the USA. He said the Russians poured huge budgets into it to protect their cosmonauts, trying to catch disturbances in the body's energy field before they became illness in space.
I wanted to check the "secret" part, because I'd heard it too. What's on the record is that the Cold War superpowers really did fund secret research into human energy and consciousness. The best documented example is the US Stargate Project, which began at the Stanford Research Institute in 1972. It studied remote viewing, the psychic ability to "see" distant places, and it stayed classified until the CIA closed it in 1995. (source) Stargate was about psychic ability rather than health scanning. I couldn't find documents confirming that Soviet scanning devices themselves were kept secret, so I'd treat that part of the story as unproven.
As for Germany, Daniel says around 500 to 600 conventionally trained doctors there now use this kind of technology, alongside roughly 800 naturopaths. I couldn't verify those numbers. What I did find is that bioresonance is popular with practitioners in Germany but excluded from what the statutory health insurers will pay for. (source) So it's in use there, but not as part of mainstream healthcare.
Everything is energy, and a photo is no exception
Psychometry is a psychic skill, and it's one I'm genuinely fascinated by. It means feeling the energy held within an object, a photo or a place. People book me with all sorts: photos of loved ones, photos of buildings and locations, you name it. I'm even asked to sense the energy of a business, or of someone a client is thinking of hiring.
The way I understand it, everything we touch, live in and spend time around takes on something of our energy. Think of it like a fingerprint left behind. A ring worn every day for 40 years, a family home, a photo taken on a stressful day in the City: they all carry a resonance of the people and the moments connected to them. When I tune in psychically, that's what I'm reading.
You don't have to be a psychic to feel it, either. Walk into a building and you can often sense the atmosphere straight away, whether it feels warm, heavy or tense. Nowhere do I feel it more than in mediumship. Get a group of people into a room to sit for trance and you can feel the energy of that room change. The Victorians wove the hair of the people they'd lost into lockets to keep them close, and I think they sensed the same thing: a part of us stays in what we leave behind. At the end of the day, everything is energy.
Daniel explains it through the idea of quantum entanglement. In his words, particles that have once been connected stay connected, whatever the distance. He says a strand of hair, or a photograph, still carries your information. He even mentioned the old fear among some Native American people that a camera could steal your soul. "No, their soul won't be taken," he told me, "but their information 100% will."
I should be honest here. To physicists, quantum entanglement is a very specific effect between tiny particles. It isn't accepted as a way that photos or hair stay linked to a person. So I don't hold that up as proof. What I can tell you is what I experienced: a picture sent over WhatsApp gave Daniel a way into me that I didn't expect.
Science does show that our bodies are more electric and luminous than we feel day to day. Your heartbeat is electrical, which is why it can be traced on an ECG. According to the HeartMath Institute, the heart produces the strongest rhythmic electromagnetic field in the body. Its magnetic field is more than 100 times stronger than the brain's and can be picked up by sensitive instruments about three feet away from you. (source) So the feeling that you can sense someone before they've said a word may not be as fanciful as it sounds. In the 1970s and 80s, German biophysicist Fritz-Albert Popp championed research into "biophotons", the extremely faint light given off by living cells, and he coined the term in 1984. Cells really do give off this light, although the bigger theories about what it means are still unproven. (source)
For me, it all comes back to what spirit has taught me over the years: that we're energetic beings first, and physical second. This experience didn't create that belief. It just held a mirror up to it.
Healers have been reading the body through energy for a long time
What struck me most is that none of this is new. Long before anyone built a machine, mediums and healers were reading the body through the energy of spirit.
Edgar Cayce (1877 to 1945), often called the "Sleeping Prophet", gave readings in a trance state in which he diagnosed the causes of people's symptoms and suggested simple remedies. More than 14,000 of his readings were written down and preserved, and the organisation he founded in 1931, the Association for Research and Enlightenment, still holds them in Virginia Beach. (source)
George Chapman (1921 to 2006) was a fireman from Aylesbury who became one of Britain's best-known trance healers. In trance he worked with the spirit of Dr William Lang, an eye surgeon at the Middlesex Hospital who had passed in 1937. People who'd known Lang, including his former student Dr Kildare Singer, said they recognised his manner and speech when he came through. Through Chapman, Lang would gently examine patients and describe old operations and current problems. (source)
To me, Daniel's machine and a healer in trance may be two doors into the same room. One uses technology. The other uses the spirit world. Both start from the idea that the body holds information beyond what we can see.
The energy we carry shows up in the body
The deeper part of my scan wasn't about allergies at all. It was about the stress I'd been holding, the pace I'd been living at and the patterns sat underneath. That's the part that has stayed with me.
It's also where the mainstream research is strongest. The Adverse Childhood Experiences study, published in 1998, surveyed more than 9,500 adults. It found a strong link between painful experiences in childhood and many of the leading causes of death in adult life, including heart disease, cancer and lung disease. (source)
Two books have shaped how a lot of people think about this:
The Body Keeps the Score (2014) by psychiatrist Bessel van der Kolk argues that trauma isn't only stored as a memory. It lives on in the body and nervous system, so healing has to involve the body too. (source)
When the Body Says No (2003) by Dr Gabor Maté explores how hidden stress and buried emotion can play a powerful part in chronic illness. In his words, when we've been prevented from learning to say no, our bodies may end up saying it for us. (source)
This is where I feel the East and the West have so much to learn from each other. Ancient traditions have always talked about a life force: prana in India, chi in China, mana across the Pacific Islands. Western medicine is brilliant at emergencies, surgery and treating symptoms. But it can be slower to ask why someone became unwell in the first place.
Daniel's view is that within 10 or 20 years, a lot of healing will involve sound, light and frequency. I don't know if he's right. I do believe the future lies in looking at the whole person, and in getting under the bonnet of how we live, what we believe and the energy we carry.
What the sceptics and the science say
You deserve the full picture, so here's what the other side says. Mainstream medicine doesn't accept these devices as a way to diagnose illness.
Allergy testing. In a 2001 double-blind trial published in the BMJ, experienced practitioners used an electrodermal device to test 30 volunteers for allergies. It couldn't tell the allergic people from the non-allergic ones. (source) Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center says clinical trials show bioresonance doesn't succeed in diagnosing allergies. (source)
Advertising. In the UK, the Advertising Standards Authority has found that none of the efficacy claims for bioresonance it looked at were supported by evidence. (source)
The biggest risk. Most health professionals worry that people will use a scan instead of proper medical tests and treatment.
So where does that leave my own scan? I'll tell you plainly: it was accurate. From a photo, it named my diabetes and my allergies, which I've lived with for years and which Daniel didn't know about. A sceptic would say I'd already been diagnosed, so nothing new was discovered. That's fair. But for me, what's mind-blowing isn't the discovery. It's that the information was there at all, held within the energy of one picture. Also, many other things came up in the session with Daniel regarding my medical history, so without going into my full medical history, it was very accurate and certainly left me with a lot of food for thought.
I sit with both of those things. As a medium, I know that evidence doesn't always arrive the way a laboratory wants it to. And as someone who wants you to stay safe, I'd say this clearly: see a scan like this as a mirror for reflection and wellbeing. It isn't a replacement for your GP. If something comes up that worries you, take it to a doctor.
What I'm taking from it
I went into this curious and came out with more questions than answers, which is often where the best growth starts. Whatever you make of the machine, the conversation with Daniel reminded me that we are far more than what we can see.
For me, that's where a scan like this can be so helpful. It can shine a light on things you need to be aware of, and on the parts of how you live your life that might need to change. It doesn't take away from seeing your doctor. But it was genuinely illuminating, and it made me sit and give a lot of thought to how I live, and to just how much energy we carry.
When I mentioned I fancied getting one of these machines myself, someone said something I loved. "Jason, you don't need one of those," she said. "Spirit will tell you." She's got a point.
SPIRITUAL TAKEAWAYS
You've been reading energy your whole life. Think of walking into a room and feeling the tension before anyone speaks. That's you sensing energy.
What we carry shows up somewhere. Stress, grief and old beliefs don't just sit in the mind. Notice where your body is asking you to listen.
Stay curious and keep your feet on the ground. You can explore energy work with an open heart and still keep seeing your doctor. The two aren't in competition.
Look for causes, not just symptoms. Ask what's beneath the tiredness, the tension or the pattern that keeps repeating.
You are an energetic being first. Your body, your thoughts and your spirit are all part of the same whole.
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Jason: Hello, my darling listener. Welcome back to the Soul Sync podcast. Now, long before we had words like science, people knew. In India, they called it prana, in China, chi, across the Pacific Islands, mana. Different lands, different languages, and yet the same understanding. But there is a life force moving through everything, through us, between us. They didn't need a machine to tell them. They felt it in the breath, in the land, in each other And somewhere along the way, most of us forgot. But you haven't really forgotten, have you? Have you ever walked into a room and just had a feeling and just known? Nobody said a word. Nobody needed to, because you felt it. The tension that had, I don't know, just kinda been there, or that warmth that makes something in you soften. Now, that's energy, and you've been reading it, my darling listener, your whole life. Now, I'll tell you, science is starting to catch up with what the ancients knew. Every beat of your heart is electrical. It's why it can be traced on an ECG. Researchers at the HeartMath Institute describe the heart's magnetic field as up to 5,000 times stronger than the brain's, and it reaches out beyond your body into the space around you. In the 1970s, a German biophysicist called Fritz-Albert Popp found that living cells give off a faint light, bio photons. You are quite literally, my dear, glowing, too softly for the eyes to see, but I tell you, it's there. Now, the Victorians wove the hair of the people they'd lost into lockets and rings to keep them close. In mediumship, we have psychometry, where you hold someone's ring or watch and feel the life it's been a part of. Somehow, we've always sensed that a part of us stays in the things we leave behind. Now, a few weeks before, I would say even, we recorded this episode, I sent today's guest one thing, a photograph of myself over WhatsApp. That's all. And from that photo, he told me things about my body, my mind, the patterns I carry, that I hadn't told him. I either sat there quite literally thinking, "How?" It just goes to show that literally from a photograph of ours, there is an energy resonance within that. And, uh, what came back from this, I just couldn't believe. So this is an interesting conversation with Daniel Zavrel. Enjoy.
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Jason: So Daniel, welcome onto the Soul Sync. It's lovely to have you on
Daniel: Thank you so much for having me, uh, Jason.
Jason: Oh, it's lovely. And I must say, we met two weeks ago on this day to do a very interesting experiment. Well, I'm gonna call it an experiment. You're probably gonna call it something different, but we're gonna come onto that. Tell us and the listener about you and what you do
Daniel: Yeah. So, uh, my name is Daniel, uh, Zavrel. I'm originally from the Netherlands, currently living since two weeks here in the Philippines. So originally I've studied, uh, I'm a business economist. I studied on Erasmus University in Rotterdam. But as a small boy I always looked at the stars and I thought by myself, what's the meaning of life? Is there death after life? Is there alien life? So this, all these philosophical question I find much more interesting than business economy Big questions to be asking at a young age, Daniel. Big questions. Exactly, exactly. Yeah. But I did do my study, and my first job was with Accenture, uh, which is still the largest, uh, consulting firm in the world. And yeah, I did that and I had a fancy car. Uh, I, I one of the first my friend's group with a Alpha Romeo 33 and with a big sound in it. And so uh, at that moment, uh, there was, what was, uh, was big for me. The job itself, I didn't like it. There was somewhere IT projects it did- I did the change management part, which was kind of okay. But what I did notice that I did like the human part of it. And, um, so like changes and then I dove, dove more into human performance, and then I gradually switched to human wellbeing and vitality. Hey, and that became my passion. Thought, "Wow, this is real big fun." So, uh, I became a yoga teacher, a meditation teacher, a HeartMath teacher. So I dove into a whole of complementary stuff, and then appeared to be, um, some kind of role. S- I had, I had a role as like a bridge builder between corporates and spirituality, um, because I really speak both languages. I dove deep into the spiritual world, but I also had this very strong feet in the corporate world. So I acted, uh, in, in these big corporations like Accenture, PricewaterhouseCoopers, Phillips, Unilever, Shell, and actually on the spiritual side. And that might surprise many people, but for example, a company like PWC, they have in their mission now, uh, uh, the spiritual part, huh? So it's physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually. and th- they, these are account- Well, there's gonna
Jason: a lot of people listening to this, Daniel, thinking these big culprits don't
Daniel: have a soul. How do you even come to bring the spiritual to
Jason: such an organization?
Daniel: Yeah, yeah. So that's, that's a good point. Uh, they do. They do have a soul. So that's, um... When you, I think, go more from bottom up, eh, uh, like most of these people, like for example, I also trained with the whole team 60,000 police officers. I will come to that la- later. But most of these people have good intentions, but they are busy. Really, really, really busy. When I do scan them, I will talk about this conscious scan later, I see so much stress. So it's so needed, huh, to bring kind of consciousness and light into these organizations. So actually I'm... I see myself a kind of a spiritual marine or something, a spiritual commando, which is being sent into these places, huh, to bring my best of and to help them to, yeah, develop and discover the spiritual part in themselves, Which is... Which they really love when you use the right terms and when you don't make it too fluffy. And, uh, so when you make it... And I really love practical spirituality myself. I have a big family. I seven children together with my wife, Andrea. There are all of us together. Um, And yeah, so you need a very, to be very ground. And I love grounded spirituality in a way. There were times I was not grounded at all, to be honest. But now I really love that part. I think that's all of us, yes? Yeah. At
Jason: or another
Daniel: Sure. Yeah, so that's a little b- little background already. So, uh, yeah, uh, I dove deep into both, uh, both parts. And, uh, I'm doing this already for about 30 years now. Um, and I'm moving more into the private world now. Like, I used to have, like, 95% corporate clients, 5%, uh, private, and now it's, like, 50/50, and I work 100% online with this conscious scan method. Uh, so I do this, uh, body mind scans for wellbeing actually with people from all over the world, and I really, really love it Hmm.
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Jason: There's a lot we could unpack there, but, um, you know, yeah, in terms of your background, what you've been through, what you've done, how you've got to where you are, and it's interesting because I feel that the point that you described kind of going from the corporate world and emerging the spiritual and the corporate is kind of the point of my life where I'm at now, where I've been, You know, like I said to you, I've been in the, um, corporate world recruiting lawyers now for
Daniel: 15 years. Yeah.
Jason: and overnight I've now found myself, well, the only thing I'm doing at the moment amongst my massive to-do list is mediumship, and I've kind of gone into this world full time. But I keep thinking I've got such a repertoire of skills from my corporate days, my police officer days, my psychic work, my mediumship work, and I see my next chapter kind of being pulling all those different strands together to, you know, help people essentially. So when we met, 'cause you mentioned there about the conscious body scan, and you offered me two weeks ago before we recorded this episode for us to meet together, and the only thing I had to do prior to meeting was to send you a selfie kind of picture of myself. So I sent you a picture, which was about six weeks ago, um, and it was a selfie
Daniel: I took
Jason: in a, um, i- in a coffee shop in the middle of the city of London when I'm just about to go to a client meeting, so probably one of my more stressful days prior to leaving work. So when we met, you took that picture and you put it into a device. Tell the listener what is this device and what were you doing? Because it blew my mind quite frankly, Daniel.
Daniel: Yeah, great question, uh, Jason. Well, let's off with some developments in this technology. So the first steps were made on Stanford University, actually for elite forces of the US Army. to bring and to help them to come in the best shape of themselves. But it was during the Cold War, uh, when, when the first discoveries in this technology, uh, was. And so there was a lot of espionage and counter espionage between the USSR and the USA. think it's still going on, but at that time it was really on a peak. And then the Russians, um, had this technology and they, um, applied it for the cosmo- uh, cosmonauts because very expensive to, let's say, get a cosmonaut out of space with, uh, with a liver disease or an ulcer or whatever. So they didn't spare costs. It's like they invested billions and billions in Russia at that time, uh, to develop this, uh, quantum-based technology so that they could already detect the so-called bioenergy field of a cosmonaut. Disturbances in the bioenergy energy field before that those disturbances materializing into a disease, for example, the stomach ulcer. And, uh, yeah, the Russians are in a absolutely unique position, uh, uh, geographically because half of their face is directed to Europe But the other half of the face is directed to China and India, to the East. So they bring actually both worlds together, huh? Like the Eastern philosophy, the Western, uh, philosophy, and they also brought it together in this technology. Now, which, which looks very, uh, holistically. Now we call it the Conscious Scan, and conscious is with a Z be- because, uh, it was the name I gave on to the coaching method. Because the name Conscious, when I wanted to have that domain, it would cost me, cost me $1 million. So then I said, "Okay, I use-" But yes ... doing conscious with a Z just to have a playful element. Mm-hmm. So when, when your listeners hear Conscious Scan, it's with a Z. Conscious Scan. Yeah, so they, they developed this technology, and, um, huge, huge scientists worked on that for 50 years. It's really, really impressive. And then after, when the walls went down, it, they, it came to Germany, and then the Germans proce- uh, developed it further. They medically certified it. And so if you want... I have say that if you want to scan a person medically certified, you use this, uh, this cell analysis box, and you put a piece... Now, now I've demonstrated with a photo in this. But generally, you put a piece of hair or a piece of nail in it, and then it's a total medically certified m- m- mini laboratory. But most of my clients choose a photo, uh, because the results with a photo are exactly the same. And of course, I have explain that a little bit, um, because that's actually where mediumship and I think what we do is have some kind, kind of common ground. But let's, uh, I try to explain it very mathematically, because there's actually nothing mystical about it. Let's first say, uh, when for example, uh, in, in North America when the Indians lived there and, uh, people Europe came there and they also introduced photography. When they wanted to take a picture of a North American Indian, they were scared as hell. They would run away because they were afraid their soul would be taken. And no, their soul won't be taken, but their information 100% will. Mm. Every time a picture is taken of you, the full information of you, of... is, and of your essence is captured. And let me explain how that works. So that's in quantum physics, they call it quantum entanglement. Eh, this is just a common, uh, quantum technology of, of knowledge. Let's say w- when we use the hair, eh? Because it's maybe for your listeners or viewers a little bit easier to comprehend in first, as the first step. So all the atoms and particles which are in this hair, uh, then in quantum physics, distance doesn't matter. So you are in London, in the Philippines. So if I would have your hair, put it in a cell analysis box, then this hair is part of you. And, uh, parts which are, have ever been, uh, entangled together will be entangled forever, and without distance. so distance doesn't matter, time doesn't matter, and that's called quantum entanglement. Eh, so the distance between you and your hair, in the bioenergy field you're still connected. Same with nail or whatever. And a photo, then, uh, we have to explain the concept of the bioenergy fields. And like most Western people, eh, um, yeah, they only believe what they see. Eh, I was al- also educated that way, yeah. I'm, I call that the left brain prisoner. With respect, because I was a left prisoner. And that we also- Yes ... have been educated in the left brain, and what we can see is true. But the sad part about that is what we can see is only 0.00005% of all frequencies out there. And like a dog can detect, for example, spirits in the house, eh, which are on, on another frequency. We cannot see it, and then suddenly the cat looks or the dog looks. I had, I had this, uh, we had this li- little dog and he would look, and he would stare, and I would "Man, what is he doing? What's he... " And then we, we, we could have chills. and he absolutely saw, I think, kinda like a spirit or something. And- Well, I think when it comes to animals, they're so
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Jason: present anyway. They're not thinking about what they're gonna have for tomorrow night's dinner or what they're gonna have for last... What, what happened to them last night. They're always in the present moment, and
Daniel: I think
Jason: the same with children as, as well,
Daniel: isn't it? Absolutely. Absolutely. So they can see frequencies and detect frequencies, like their smell, for example, when they, when they use these drug do- drug dogs. We cannot smell the drugs, can we? They can. It's amazing. was in the Philippines. Before getting on a boat, they, they would have this dog sniff all the bags. It's amazing- Yeah ... that it can do it. I mean, eh, it's the same thing. So there's so much we cannot do or see, but that will not say it's not there or, or that's not true. And now to make it a little bit more simpler, so I'm also a yoga teacher, and in the yoga philosophy we have seven bodies, and not one. Well, so we have the physical body, and then you have the ethereal body, which will be used with, for example, acupuncture. Uh, have you ever done acupuncture?
Jason: Yes, I have, and I've always found it to be very
Daniel: effective. Yeah, but also you can sometimes feel the electricity, yeah, when they put this needle and then z- z. So, and that- Yes ... because it's, really, uh, working on, on the, um, yeah, ethereal body, so to say. It's your energy body. Then a layer further is your emotional body. Eh, like some people who are clairvoyant or whatever, they, they can see this emotional body. Yeah, like this boy who saw the teacher becoming red and he was angry, eh, or blue when he was very calm. And, uh, so this is the emotional body. And then we have the astral body, which is very interesting because when you fall asleep, then you f- well, if you fall into the astral body. And in astral body you can travel to the moon, to the sun, and you have all these experiences. There's also other beings and you could detect, yeah, other worldly beings and... So it's a, it's a very, um, unknown dimension, and, and a, a little bit scary dimension. Because for most of us, if we are not trained in the astral, it can be very scary, huh. At night, at certain things which happen- Mm uh, to you. It can also be very positive. And then one step further is what they call in yoga the ananda body. This is very interesting. So when you have an orgasm, for example, and you feel this ecstasy, and what happens is that you travel, that, that you make contact with your- ananda body. Ananda means bliss. Yeah, that's actually your body full of bliss. So your nature is bliss. Eh, but because we have all these layers between, it takes some time. The whole process of spirituality and yoga to unravel it so that you can be in bliss constantly. And then one step further- Oh, is yeah, one step further is the, the Buddha body or the enlightenment mo- body or the self-realization, how you want to call, is that you are one with the whole universe in this omni-knowing, omnipotent state. I'm not there, but I've had glimpses of it. So have many people, what they call a samadhi or satori experience. And one- once you have seen and felt that- Only for a one-thousandth your soul forever. Because that's the stuff, that's the real stuff. And then you know- Mm-hmm ... every biggest happiness you can find on this earth is not even one-billionth of the happiness you are. And that's why souls keep on pushing and pushing and pushing on... in the end to come to that place. And it's really rewarding and it's really comforting that in the end we are total divine beings and we are total bliss. And for all the people who are depressed and don't see light anymore, listen well, you will get there sooner or later. And it's a 100% promise, huh, because it's your essence, eh. You cannot not be it. So but let's go back to the photo. So all these layers together is what they call in science the bioenergy field. So a photo depicts all this energy, uh, and information is there on a subtler... Like in the hair is quantum entanglement, but your photo is also quantum entangled with you. But it's a little bit subtler than hair or a nail, but exactly the same principle. So all the energy of all the bodies, the yin-yang balance, everything is in the photo. And when you have very good sensitive, uh, calibrated, um, uh, technology, we can measure the whole body. Yeah, the balance of the whole body. your brain, your guts, uh, your stomach, the cells, even up to the DNA level, huh, because it's nanotechnology, and then we can calculate nutrition 100% personalized. And so I did apply this technology, for example, with PSV, which is one of the top three, uh, soccer clubs, uh, football clubs I may call it in England fortunately. We But in America now where the, where the championships, uh, world championship is. Uh, so sorry for England. They, they had this beautiful game against France. Yes. We did. Yes. So I think they really could have been world champion. Okay, but let's put that apart. They... I think they had th- this unique chance with this big team. But okay. Let- let's, let's pause that. Um, so- And this, uh, we were talking about this, uh, bioenergy field and which I applied the technology with PSV Eindhoven, which is, let's say like, uh, you have Manchester United, Liverpool, um, uh, let see, uh, Manchester City. So let's say the top four clubs, uh, of England. PSV is one of the top three clubs. So they w- uh, in the Netherlands with Ajax and Feyenoord and AZ. So we were, uh... I was a mental coach with them applying this conscious scan technology. So we were three times champion, Dutch champion in a row. And, uh, so I could calculate personalized nutrition. I could see the mental programs, yeah? Because all... There's a 20-year research of all psychoemotional imprints which also, uh, for example, prenatal imprints. Uh, when a mother is pregnant, yeah, the first imprints are being printed epigenetically on the baby. We can measure those, and we can measure, if, uh, uh, pathologies or tendencies to pathologies. Um, we can measure, um, let's say radiation, 3G, 4G, 5G, WiFi stress, for example, in the brain or whatever. So it's a complete holistical technology where we, uh, measure all those things, and I do it online with screen sharing, and that's what I love because can do it everywhere in the world.
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Jason: Well, yes. I think that when I, we were going through it, and, you know, you obviously put that photo of me into the machine, I think what really surprised me, uh, because the level of detail firstly that y- you could go into there was just crazy. But, you know, to b- to bring it back to basics, I was just shocked that a photo of me, which is at the end of the day pixels,
Daniel: that's what it is. Yeah. That's what,
Jason: that's what it's arrived in your inbox as. But, you know, from that photo, it very successfully pinpointed my diabetes, my allergies, my intolerances, my peanut allergy. But it went much, much deeper than that, didn't it? Even to the point where, you know, it's... I'll be honest with you, Daniel, it's put
Daniel: me off sushi for life, um, you know- after, after, uh,
Jason: it, you know, real- well, realizing there was some kind of worm or something in, uh, one of my organs. And the first question you said was, "Have
Daniel: I had sushi?
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Jason: And I was like, "Yes, I had it yesterday." But it just... I just couldn't believe it. If that is, um, a thing, which it is, why the hell are we not using it in medicine more?
Daniel: Well, uh, to be honest, in Germany, it is already. And so it's a, in the end now, it's a German technology. So in Germany, on this field is quite much ahead of, for example, the Netherlands. And I don't know, but I don't know England so much, but at least- I've never even heard or seen of it
Jason: England, um,
Daniel: all Okay. Yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. So but in Germany, like, uh, about 5 to 600 traditional schooled, uh, doctors already use this technology, And then, uh, about 800 naturopathic doctors. So there are more naturopathic doctors, uh, still using it in Germany than, uh, regular. But it's also in the regular world coming more. And I think within 10 years, maybe 20, I don't know, all healing will be sound Uh, light frequency. Uh, like you have this, uh, in... Uh, have you ever heard about Gaia? This, this program, this station from, uh, US where they- Yes ... have all this fancy- I do watch it quite
Jason: often, yeah.
Daniel: Yeah. So you have- I, I, I like that channel. Yeah, it's really beautiful. So you have Cosmic Disclosure, for example, and there was man, Corey Goode. So I don't know if he's for real or not because, uh, like some people might think that of me now in this conversation But he was so far ahead of everything. So he told them that he we- went on missions, yeah, out of Earth, yeah, to, uh, for, on, on the, what you said, Earth alliance or space alliance and met reptilians, and I don't know what- whatever he met. But then he had to come back sometimes out of time, go back in time, and he had to go in these med beds, as he called it. So then he had to go a machine and his whole body would be balanced again. He, and he called... Th- they said to him, "It's a med bed." And, uh, I think this is the, the... where the technology we use also comes from black op projects. And you know, black op projects are secret projects generally first in the military, uh, like this one was also on Stanford and f- and in Russians for cosmonauts in the military, and they're huge budgets. And, um, then suddenly some, some of the technology, technologies come out in the open, like the internet. It was a black op, black op project. It was secret before, and now everybody uses it. So I think the technology we are using it is like a pre- preliminary step later for these med beds. And, and that's, uh... and it can take... Like, like when we are disease, you step into a med bed because we can also, uh, help people heal with frequencies out of the technology because every cell in your body has a healthy frequency. For example, the liver is on 4.9 hertz, the brain on 8.2 hertz, the bones on 8.8 hertz. And you can just send the healthy frequency and then the yin-yang balance will be restored, and your body remembers its original blueprint. And that's what healing is, becoming whole again. It's very simple. It's not so wishy-wishy as most people think. Everything is logic in this technology. It's all mathematics. Uh, probabilities, mathematics, spectrography. So what you do... If, for example, if I measured your liver, for example, it has a certain frequency. We it with a database. It's called spectrography. And then let's say I saw a player of page three drunk. He had a party because he was champion. He drunk, uh, three Jack Daniel's Cola. I will scan him and his liver is full in stress. The frequency will be compared with database, and the database say, "Well, we had a chance of 95%, we have from alcohol here." Or stress from suppressed anger, or we have this old program of not being good enough or whatever.
Jason: I bet when you're using it in the football team, they're all too scared to see
Daniel: you.
Jason: They're probably thinking, "Oh, God, Daniel, don't get your machine out again. We don't want people knowing
Daniel: what we're-" It is, in a way. 'Cause it's very exposing, isn't it? Yes, if it's- Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. So there's, uh, no way to hide. Uh, so, uh, I always say to clients that you need an open mind, a growth mindset, but also, uh, um, yeah, the preparedness to look into the mirror. Uh, because there's, there's nowhere to hide when, uh, to hide from a scan, you. Hey- Mm ... everything will be exposed, uh, in your body, which is a good thing, course, eh? So you see where there is disbalance also where you can, uh, change lifestyle for the better, where you can grow into, uh, into a better version of yourself, awaken more of your potential. So that's a good thing. But it can be confronting to see that your adrenal glands are so f***ed up with stress, for example, because you- Yes ... are not aware of doing everything in a haste, which I see a lot, example, i- in these accounting firms, for example. And, um, then we have to learn... Uh, because generally I five sessions one hour. Could also be one hour, like with you, then it's a body-mind scan. But then we can transform and shift, for example, thought processes or focus processes or, um, lifestyle things like food or nutrition or exercise. Very much pinpointed. And for some people- Well, I think what I like about
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Jason: it, even from a medical, um, perspective, is we've just got so used to, I think, treating people medically based on symptoms they've got or the disease they've got. Whereas this, um, you know, very much puts the emphasis straight back to what the root actual cause is of something, and so of st- um, you know, even disease is
Daniel: caused by
Jason: stress and lifestyle and the way that you live your life and how you process that stress, that emotion, whatever it might be. And this gets straight to the root of the problem, and think so often, you know, I don't think doctors in England would even want to ask people, um, kind of digging deep, deep questions about their mental state, how they're feeling, 'cause those are sorts of questions that I think a doctor might step away from perhaps. Whereas this puts the emphasis exactly where it should be, um, on getting to the root of the problem. In
Daniel: my ...that's what it like 100%. Eh, so go to core of the matter. Yeah, what's, what's the main cause the problem holistically, physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually so you can heal faster, huh? And, uh, in this time, people want to go fast. Eh, so when you Wow you go 10 times faster than when only a symptom. And sadly, I saw this American documentary medical system has been hijacked actually by the Rockefeller family. I was really shocked when I saw this documentary. So, uh, for, let's say, 120 years... It was American documentary, and the American medicine was beautiful. It all was with herbs, it was holistically, and it was a very, very, uh, difficult study to accomplish, huh? And so it was, it was very effective and these doctors would, would work. But then s- slowly, the Rockefellers were in the oil industry, and they steadily took over the medical world, and they the medicines on oil basis. And so actually, uh, the pharmaceuticals now are on oil basis. And sto- they, they took over all these herb practices and changed it and wiped them out of the business. But sad-- more even sadder, they also changed the universities. So say an- Mm ... average doctor in the US gets no more than one hour education on food, and we e- every top- Yes ... sporter, for example, knows how much, important nutrition is. Well,
Jason: be with you, in America there should be at least a... Maybe why food situation is as it is. Uh, is that the worst country in the world for food, aren't
Daniel: they? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, almost everybody knows when eat too much sugar, you're in danger for diabetes, for example, or whatever, Eh, so the link between nutrition and performance is so obvious, and also the link between nutrition and bad health obvious. Eh, so how- can be that a doctor whi- which is healing people m- knows almost nothing about nutrition, eh? And, um, also about holistic things. what you were saying, psycho-emotional causes. And so end, I, I think in the end there's nothing wrong with our Western medicine, uh, because it has really good things. When I break a leg or when somebody breaks a leg- Better go a Western ho- a Western hospital because they very good healing your leg, eh? But when And also when you have a headache, it's sometimes really that can a pill against the headache, a- against that symptom- Mm in that moment, eh? So, but the arrogance is the problem. Eh, let's say traditional Chinese medicine is 5,000 years old, like is the Ayurvedic medicine. Our Western medicine is 100 years old. So there's this, um, f- uh, writer, psychiatrist, uh, a Servan-Schreiber. So he worked with, uh, doctors who were also Western doctors. So they were both trained in Western medicine as in Tibetan medicine. And so interview, he very openly asked So when do you apply the Western approach and when do you apply your Eastern approach?" And very fastly answered, "Very When something is acute, generally we a- act more on the Western way. When something is chronic, we use our because the medicine cannot heal. They can only treat symptoms." Uh, especially and... But, but eh, le- let apart like a broken leg because then they can do it very f- But let's say more chronic diseases, eh? Um, that's... So when they w- when they other, it's like yin and yang together, eh? It's now- Hmm ... like the in says that the out breath is not important or men are okay, women are not. The day is is not. Eh, it's yin and yang, eh, West and East. Well, Western
Jason: medicine is all about, it's all about treating, um, symptoms. It's all about, um, because of the fact that, you know, even your machine, um, you know, is giving you a full body scan. In Western medicine, you wouldn't go to the, uh, to have a leg scan and them suddenly scan the rest of your body too. Oh, well, you
Daniel: know
Jason: what we'll do, Daniel, is we'll actually put you through our whole body scanner just to see how you are on an energetic basis, check as well as that leg while we're here. But we don't do that, and it is all about treatment and cause, and I think that that's why so many people get to a stage very sadly where maybe they've got an stage cancer that they never even knew about, um, because the first time that they've walked into a doctor's surgery is when they're really, really, really struggling. Because we've got this, I think a part of it in this country caused by the National Health Service. I think we are aware that it's, um, you know, we're very blessed to have it, but we, it's struggling, and we go to a lot of the, the mentality of this country is I'll go to the doctor's when I'm absolutely struggling ' cause I don't want to be a burden on the system, and, you know, that's kind of, uh, something I just keep hearing. But the amazing thing about, you know, what you do is it's, is it's giving someone an awareness because I think a lot of the time as well we can live in denial in our life where we, where, you know, the things that we're doing that aren't so healthy for us, we kind of, um, forget those things, or we choose not to pay attention to them. And, you know, that kind of puts it really in the spotlight, doesn't it? Because it shows you that every action or every thought has a responding consequence in some way or another, doesn't it?
Daniel: So yeah, beautifully said. Yeah, it ...Yeah, Jason, absolutely. And know the whole principle of yeah, from Joe Dispenza. So thoughts become things. Uh, and re- it's 100% scientifically proven how this biochemically works. Let's say you a negative thought, uh, then first thing is your electromagnetic field of the heart is 5,000 times stronger than your brain. So when for example, anger, the, the heart rhythm becomes incoherent. So the sympathetic and the parasympathetic branches the autonomic system fight, fight other. They become very blurred. the pressure wave the heart goes to all the arteries and the veins, uh, it synchronizes your brain, for example, but the information is very incoherent, uh, which is an pattern. And it travels also, uh, through the thought process to the genes. Say you your genome. For example, I have blue eyes. Yeah, okay, will be my entire life. But then you have the, uh, epigenome. Ep- Epi means above, and that's the layer of the science of epigenetics, which is really, really interesting. So then certain, uh, switches are turned off or on. And let's say you have a twin, and they've, they've done these studies with twins, and the one half the twin eats, uh, very healthy, um, let's say a paprika and an apple, uh, during, uh, watching, uh, football, and the other twin is drinking, uh, beers and chips. then time, uh, uh, the epigenome will have another expression. They, they could measure it very ... And for example, cancer could develop, huh? Uh, and it's just epigenetics. So you're th- but, but the thinking exactly same. And so certain neuropeptides are sun- sent to your blood to the s- to the cells. And when you think positive, and then a very coherent pattern from your heart, huh? For example, let's say you are grateful for something. uh, even like a small cappuccino with a, with a newspaper in a espresso bar. You have your newspaper, nice design, and you're sitting and nothing special. Cost you a pound or, or two pounds. I don't know what in England cost, but And you're just having a s- Too much, Daniel. Too much I know, I know. Same in the Netherlands. Uh, here it's cheap in the Philippines, but, and, um, but you're there and you're just having a good time. Your heart becomes coherent. The pressure wave to your whole body becomes coherent. The signals to your genome becomes... And you are in a healing state. That's a very frequency state. Gratefulness is one of highest frequencies, uh, expressions of love you can have. And, uh, so all epi- epigenetics. And we can measure these epigenetics imprints also in the conscious scan technology, even from the womb. And so to become conscious of your, let's say, inhibiting patterns and beliefs is so important, huh, Because those... W- so actually, what stress? Well, the definition of the HeartMath Institute of which I use, uh, stress is experiencing an unpleasant feeling, dot. That's it. So when you feel angry, depressed, sad, bored, uh, irritated, everything which feels unpleasant gives an incoherent heart rhythm, and what stress is. And so for now, listeners and viewers, from now on what you have- Well, it's... Do
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Jason: you know what? It's even the power of thoughts in, you know, the, the work of Dr. Emoto in Japan when he did the study on water, and,
Daniel: yeah, And, um- Yeah ... sent
Jason: the positive thought waves to one glass of water, sent the, uh, negative thoughts, "You're ugly. You're not worth anything. You won't amount to anything," and then froze both glasses of water And, um, you know, the, the positive, um, intention glass had perfectly formed geometric shapes. The, um, uh, ugly water, or whatever you wanna call it, the negative water, had, um, you know, disformed shapes, the same as you're describing with, um, cells and so on. But we don't realize, um, a lot of the time until it's too late, and some people never realize the power that our thoughts have. Um, and that's why I think the quickest way to change your, um... to, to, to change, make a change in your life, is to start to become aware of the words you use, um, even internally, because words are the quickest way to, to be aware of, um, the state that you are in, and how, I, I believe, how to bring change about
Daniel: 100%, and you, said it so beautifully with study of Emoto. And, uh- it, yeah. It's that simple ... for example, yeah, I... And he said, "I you," and, "I love you," add to the water. It really ugly, this, the crystals of I hate and beautiful, shape I love you. And he, they also did with plants, uh, an experiment like For example, had two plants, and to one plant would say, " I hate you," every evening, and then the other one, "I love you." The plant died, like two weeks, so of, uh, after two weeks, the plant where which words were being said died just after. became totally black. Was, um- I did that experiment- ... remember
Jason: with an avocado seed. had two avocado seeds, and I told one for a couple of days, "You handsome, you sexy.
Daniel: "You
Jason: are going to amount to a very beautiful avocado." And the other one, you know, it, it was looking beautiful, Daniel, but to me it was ugly. And two days later it died. Um, it
Daniel: did die. Oh. And
Jason: it,
Daniel: it
Jason: proved it to me. The other
Daniel: one- Yeah went
Jason: on to amount to a
Daniel: lovely plant,
Jason: if I may say so
Daniel: Good example. Now to the people. Yes. So watch your self-talk. Yeah, so every time- Mm ... if you say to yourself, "You're a loser. You cannot do this. Uh, ah, you know, it's nothing. Uh, you have, uh, you, you, you are no- you have not a talent for you get the same thing. It's like you talk to the plant, but now you talk to yourselves. Epigenetically, something happens there. Eh, and way around. So you become aware of the quality of your thinking... Uh, like ourself, we, uh, we, uh, talk to ourself between 500 and 600 words a minute. And, uh, the untrained mind, 70% of these are negative. Uh, so indeed, eh, you, of course, you have comp- you to have compassion with people you also have to with your own process. it's really fun. It's, it's one of my top sport things, yeah? To, to, uh, see and know my inner dialogue, and slowly but surely change it for the better. It's a, it's a really fun game. Eh, oh, okay, now I'm... You see, I'm going there again. Of course you lose it now and then, and then in your old mechanisms and you go, go roaming. It takes time, you know? Yeah. And, and the point is- It does ... the become more... The faster you become conscious, the faster you can change into positive self-talk. Mm. Yeah, I call it go from weak talk to strong talk
Jason: Mm. It's amazing how many, uh, people outwardly successful that you might look at are one of the top of your organizations have an inner talk that is not very positive at all. Because even in my career, I think a lot of my material success came from me saying, "You can do more. You do better. You should have done more on that. You need to push harder here." And it was a very negative talk. But you can, um, you know, become materially rich with that kind of way of thinking, but eventually at some stage, the wheels come off. Something goes wrong, you run into an illness. For me, it was psychosis. It was... I became very
Daniel: sick- Mm ... because there was only so
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Jason: much for, you know, I could take of it. But you do have to train yourself and, and, and the way to train yourself is not by being hard on yourself by saying, "Oh, I've had another negative thought again. Oh, damn it, you. You're still doing it." You it's very gentle, that, that process of, um, starting to train oneself to have a more, more of a cheerleader rather than a critic-type voice. But, you know, the ego, the bigger, uh, the left-hand side of the brain, it's bigger. It's overpowering. So even when we feel that we've mastered that very quickly, even now, you know, I'm still catching myself having thoughts every now and then because that is the ego. That is the ego, and it does take us back no matter how long we've been on a path because, you know, it could just be one little thing happens in your life, a past trauma, something from the past, or it could be someone bumps into your car that day, that sets everything off. But, you know, it's, it's a journey, not a destination, isn't
Daniel: it? Absolutely. And, think key thing, what I found as well, is that you have... uh, you want to grow to the higher states of happiness, in honest opinion, it's not possible without a dimension Mm. because has to do self-identity. So if you identify with your ego, yeah, your small me, yeah? yeah, then that ego sometime, sometime will die because the body, of course, a- at some time will perish. But if you self-identify as eternal consciousness, and which experiences m- different bodies, different, uh, genders over time, and then you might as well believe in more lives or reincarnation kind of type, eh? Which, by the way, 80% of the world does believe, eh? So it's, the, it's a majority. It doesn't say anything, but so many people do believe that. And, um, m- why do I say Because all in the end is fear of death
Jason: Mm.
Daniel: And so if you can... Uh, like the Buddhists, they, they meditate on death. Uh, so what's death? What happens after death? And, uh, then you come to the realization in the and this uh, just pure, um... And li- li- like had in, in India, you have this, uh, Ramana Maharshi. was this sage. I, been there at Tiruvannamalai. He's not, he's not in his body anymore, but I was, uh, on the... He was this sage who was in this utter realization. Only thing he possessed was a cloth, huh, to, um, to cover his genitals. That only possession he had, and he was in this total state of pure bliss. And people came to him by the thousands. And it was so, so intriguing. And in the beginning when he was not he- the ants would, like, eat from his legs. would be, like, total in dust. But he was in this realization, uh, of consciousness, of pure bliss. And then finally he also went into the world and became... Yeah, because students didn't want, Not because he want it. Mm. But he was in, in this state, and that's what... He only asked his students three words for a spiritual study. Who am I? So that's what he gave his students. Who am I? Are you your thinking? No, have thoughts. Who is this I having a thought? It's, it's the... It's, it's just the consciousness. Who is having feelings? What is the body? You say, "My body." Who, who is the my? In the end, it's pure consciousness. So self-identify with eternal unbelievable consciousness, how is this omni-knowing, omnipotent? Then your fear of death diminishes. Of course, you will pain because that's natural, huh? When, when somebody wants to do something, you... Every human body wants to avoid pain. But that's something different than fear of death, which haunts so many people. Uh, and every stress is fear of death. So let's give an example. So you are in this corporate world. Let's say you work with PwC and you work, uh... You're an accountant, and you just promoted a manager. And then, uh, one of the chief partners passes you the corridor and says, "Hey, Jeff. Um, can you come in a minute to my office? We to discuss, uh, something." Jeff thinks, "What the f*** is going So first thought might be, "Boss, me, office, fired." And then with the speed of light, fired means no money. No money means no food, means death. So the boss "You come my office," and Jeff thinks he's dying, and with the speed of light. And every stress is fear of death. And so-
Jason: Hmm.
Daniel: Mm ... uh, this why, why it would help so many people to dive into the spiritual world it will... It, so funny. It's really, really great to do that, and it will make you, your bliss so high, also fear of death will diminish. Yeah, it's, it's so interesting because even that
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Jason: that he asked, "Who am I?" If you start asking someone these deep questions, who perhaps does believe in physical death, and you start saying to someone, "Okay, um, your feelings, where are you feeling that?" You know, because you're not feeling it in your head if you're sad. Where, where, you know, what is awareness? Is, if awareness is within, then, you know, how come you can feel when someone's got that energy if it's out- outside of or within you? And it, it all just starts not really making much sense, does it, the more, the more you ask questions, because someone once said that to me in the very early days. They said, "Well, if awareness is within, then why can you sense as you can?" And I sort of thought, "Well, of course awareness is out," because I can, I understand that I can feel around me, and it, it all starts pointing back to the same direction, doesn't it? That we are eternal souls. But I get what you're saying about the fear, because it is all, um, you know, every fear that we have is tied in some way back to death. It's, um, you know, if it's not money, it's connected to the house. Then it's connected to, um, the scarcity principle, isn't it? It's all about the ultimate thing being death, and what we're trying to do is live our life to push that as far away from us as we can, because we want to be healthy and capable and live our fullest. We don't want death, you know. Please go away to 100 plus, wherever that might be.
Daniel: Yeah. But, you know,
Jason: as soon you accept that you are an eternal soul, um, it, it, it's a shift in energy and consciousness that does change everything, and it's a shift that I feel is life-changing. Because once you've understood that, um, it removes so much fear in
Daniel: life 100%. And also other concepts. Eh, like when you're consciousness, you've experienced probably so many forms and shapes. you, maybe you were a Black woman in your last life, and you will be like a- I think I might have been.
Jason: I can
Daniel: that. Yes, I can feel that ... uh, uh, maybe a uh, incarnation, uh, the next one. And so it's, it's like, eh, having all different experience because in the end, what, what matters is growth. so, ... um, it's also, um, like this Professor Kumar, uh, says from kind MBA study, I think the only thing you can ask yourself is did I grow? Eh, for example, uh, sometimes, uh, losing or, um, disappointments or whatever grow even faster. Eh, uh, it's not always the victories that do, that make you grow. Eh, but in the end, you're, you finally do die, then actually the only did my grow, Uh, did I learn from experiences?
Jason: we're down here to live, um, a life and learn lessons and grow, and I sometimes to myself when we get back to the other world, is the first people we shake hands with the people who've, you know, really done the dirty on us down here, the people that we haven't liked the most, because they are the greatest teachers, and we sort of
Daniel: get there- Oh, yeah and we can't wait
Jason: to thank them. And I do
Daniel: often- Oh, yeah ...
Jason: you know, wonder that to myself. But it's interesting, and if you do want to, um, look into the, the body scan, um, there will be a link where you can click, and I won't allow you to watch my whole body scan, because actually it's very, um, exposing. It's like seeing single part of me. So, you know, bit like you said at the beginning, a photo can be like reading into your soul, so I'm not gonna publish the whole report if anyone is really that interested.
Daniel: Fair enough. Yeah. But, you know,
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Jason: th- I'll put 10 minutes of it up so you can, so you can see. But it blew my mind, and it's, and it's really got me thinking, um, Daniel, since I met you, just how... It's got me thinking so much more about thoughts and energy and every single thing that, um, you know, is energy, and the impact and imprint that has on us, especially other people. And, you know, I think sometimes you get on these, on this spiritual journey light bulbs that go off, and seeing you and, um, you know, what you did there with my photo, it really made a lot of light bulbs go off for me, and it kind of jo- it connected a lot of dots, shall I
Daniel: say? Beautiful. Beautiful. And yeah, thinking in energy and information is so important, eh, because in the end everything is frequency, h- uh, and information. So if you learn to think in these terms, yeah, like, uh, we are sitting here now, trillions of processes are going on in our body. Trillions. And so they couldn't, uh, explain with the speed of the blood. Uh, like for example, when you eat and a vitamin will travel through your blood to a cell, it takes a long time. So cannot explain trillions of with So then they thought, well, the speed of nerves is quite, quite fast, huh? When you burn your finger it goes, uh, very fast, but not fast enough to explain trillions of processes. So then this German professor, Fritz-Albert Popp, discovered the phenomenon of bio photons. Uh, and he proved that every cell, um, emits and receives light frequencies, which called bio, this life, photon is, uh, pa- light particle. Bio photons, which is confirmed now with 150 universe. So everything speaks with each other. So the brain talks with the heart, with the head, the head with the kidneys, and all organs with each other with frequency. So every, every organ has its own frequency station. And if, if the liver wants to talk with the kidney, it knows exactly the frequency it has to talk with. And frequency can in balance out of balance. So for example, uh, from the traditional Chinese medicine, fear disbalances your kidneys. Uh, aggression and anger disbalances the liver. Not processed grief or sadness, the lungs. And sorrow, uh, the stomach, the spleen, and the pancreas, for example. So all these things, and for example, certain foods, uh, you out balance already. Let's say I had... I've scanned that person, a man, and he had heart problems. Uh, I never acted a doctor. a wellbeing a mental coach. Uh, but I, I, we can see so much the as you have discovered. So anyway, he went to three hospitals, but they couldn't find anything. So I scanned him, and his heart was really like 5s and 6, really black of the distress, and it was very simple. The technology said 5G radiation. So I asked him, "Where do your phone? Do you wear like a jacket on your... uh, like a suit? And do you put your phone in suit?" And what happens, suit, and it comes here. Mm. The heart. Yes. And not one hour. I "How many hours a day?" " Yeah, eight hours, 10 hours when was overworking." Uh, and then with me... So- people don't realize this is a very powerful electromagnetic machine. And what's the heart? Electrocardiogram. And- Well, of
Jason: course it's very powerful. It's connecting you to someone on the other side of the world wirelessly, but we don't think about this enough. You know, even the fact that we're sitting here talking now, we are miracles. The miracle is for us even to be talking. Um, but we don't, we don't look things like that, but with pure energy. Like I've always... I don't know what it is, um, I've never looked at running my day by linear time. I've always kind of scheduled my diary by energy. How much energy does something take? So I've been kind doing for years, and it's because I've always been aware that I need to conserve energy. But when I really stepped into that was on the journey of mediumship, because I started to understand, okay, we're energy. I kind of understood we're energy, but then not so much. And then I s- started to understand the process of connecting to spirit. So my knowledge over the last five years about energy just continues to evolve, and I think that you coming on and having chat with today and, um, you know, doing that has even more enhanced my knowledge of energy. But it's fascinating stuff, and if, you know, people do to find out more, then your website's in the show notes, and it's been a lovely delight to have you on, Daniel, So thank
Daniel: you. Yeah. it w- it was my, it was my delight. And just to also, for this man- Yes ... yeah, with his heart. So- Yes ... um, I just advised him, "Don't wear your phone anymore in your jacket." And then three weeks later, I scanned him again and the problem was gone, and uh, his heart healed back. Yes, I told him. course, when you voluntarily wear a strong el- electromagnetic device on a electromagnetic organ, which is the heart, huh? uh, sometimes it's very simple, huh, and but a doctor will not even come to the idea of that they are not educated with it. They don't even realize, eh, that, um, that a 5G or 3G, radiation could do They would, they will give pills or whatever, eh, this Rockefeller paradigm, I wish I was But I'll do an operation
Jason: treat the end result, which is, uh, you know, when, when the heart's got into a really bad place. And we need to, we need to wake to this. I've been saying for a very long time now that we need to be really waking up healthcare to... And healthcare's great, you know.
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Daniel: If
Jason: acutely ill, like you said, it's, it's fantastic. But, you know, when we start being much more aware of energy, um, that, that really is the key in the doorway that stops us getting unwell, needing to go to the doctor's in the first
Daniel: place. So- Yeah, absolutely it's so beautiful you say about your mediumship, eh? That, that you can channel this kind of energy. I cannot. Uh, they said I, I was born with a on, uh, like- ... Nostradamus was it. So people said, "Well, you will be clairvoyant." Uh, I'm 59, hasn't happened yet, but, uh, you already have, you have this intuitive of mediumship. I really love That's also information and energy. but, you're, you're kind of a very pure receiver, where you can receive this e- energy and information, whereas an untrained mind, an, a desensitized mind cannot. Uh, skill which is very special, uh, because, uh, you- Well, I actually believe anyone can
Jason: to the spirit world. I
Daniel: Sure, Sure ... it's po- Absolutely ...
Jason: fully possible. but I feel that, um, it,
Daniel: it's
Jason: out of a lot of people's reach because the state of their mind. Um, because
Daniel: you've got-
Jason: to ...
Daniel: to kind of
Jason: be able to, um, calm yourself down to actually let the spirit world come in and, you know, I even think about my mind some of the time. There's been times in my life where the spirit world weren't gonna get a look in because my mind is just mucky. It's got too much going on up there. But I feel anyone can, can make that connection, but I feel like anything, some people, I've always been very, very, very, very sensitive. Not really understood why that was, um, but you know, it, it turns out that my path was to be a mediumship, so to be a medium, so I receive energy, um, uh, funnily enough, I can't do, I c- so it was funny ' cause I was explaining to my friend, on a closing note, about your machine, and I was almost saying that I would love to get one to kinda combine it one day with what I want to do coaching wise, and she said, "Jason, you don't need one of those machines because the spirit world just tell you what the, you, the person needs to know."
Daniel: Yes, of course. And I
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Jason: thought, well, yes, that's true."
Daniel: Yes, of course, that's 100% possible. Uh, but you need the skill, eh- Yes ... as you have, eh? The, the only advantage a technology is that you need that skill. the, the technology can do it for you. You, you... Of course you need the coaching skill. I, I, was in a podcast with an American woman called Julie Ryan, and she's very special. She can... She's also, like, a medium. But when she was being scanned, she saw exactly what was going on. She saw all this numbers and ch-ch-ch-ch-ch and bulbs, she, she really said, "Wow, this is happening." She, could literally see the process of technology. was really amazing to me.
Jason: I could feel it when you, um, did some the treatment on by sending the energy. I could feel that the moment you did that. Um, and I could feel the resonance of what you'd done for at least a couple of days afterwards. But I'm very sensitive to it, and it almost, ...um, you know, I, For days afterwards I could feel the difference energetically. I felt a lot lighter, um, and I felt like a lot d- dunk, dark, horrible, mucky, gray energy had been taken, Daniel, and for that, I am
Daniel: grateful. Um, and that, that sounds really, really good. Yeah
Jason: Well, thank coming onto The Soul If you do wanna find out more about Daniel, go to the show notes and you can watch the video. As I said, Daniel, thank you for coming onto The Soul Sync
